Anonymous #2 3w

Yeah this is one of the worst takes I’ve ever seen. Like the other guy said. Everyone here has come from somewhere else 😭

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Anonymous #4 3w

Horseshoe theory strikes again

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Anonymous #1 3w

We shouldn’t get kicked out but maybe we don’t belong as the dominant power. I think we should have parallel power structures, look up the Two Row Wampum Belt Treaty. Let the original people start running things with the political and environmental traditions they developed on this land for thousands of years and I think we’ll see an improvement in quality of life for all. And no I don’t mean going back to sticks and huts, research indigenous knowledge it’s way deeper than that.

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Anonymous #3 3w

I think the duration of time on the land and cultural continuity is important though. At least in the US, indigenous groups have lived here for thousands of years and have developed traditions and knowledge over countless generations of trial and error. That does produce a real connection and belonging to the land. To be clear I’m not advocating for removal of anyone

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Anonymous #8 3w

Yeah I feel like this could have been worded better to specify cultural connection to the land rather than race

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Anonymous #3 3w

Natives also sailed here too btw 🤓☝️

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Anonymous #7 3w

AMEN 🙏 CHEROKEE HAVE SEMETIC DNA

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Anonymous #9 3w

That’s… not what them having sailed here refers to.

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Anonymous #2 3w

It’s true though!

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Anonymous #9 3w

I was referring to people sailing over from parts of Asia, particularly along the western coasts, I haven’t seen stuff about people arriving by boat to the east coast side

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Anonymous #7 2w

Europeans do have cultural connections to Europe. I imagine they feel their culture is threatened

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Anonymous #10 2w

Europe has a huge range of diversity and has for centuries. The biggest threat to europe is and has consistently been white supremacy.

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Anonymous #9 2w

It’s not. I mean some do now, my ex’s family are mixed Jewish-Cherokee. But the Cherokee and other Native American communities have their ancestry from east Asia with colonial-era admixture from other ethnicities like Europeans and Africans.

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Anonymous #2 2w

I am extremely into Native American history and #7 is right the current evidence generally supports the Americas being populated by people moving along the pacific coast from Asia in boats. There were later migrations from Asia (like which brought the Athabaskan speakers and later the Inuit) but no evidence of other migrations aside from isolated examples of Viking, Polynesian, and possibly Japanese contact which don’t leave a genetic legacy in the Americas.

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Anonymous #2 2w

Read the Book of Mormon, and let it testify to you 🫶

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Anonymous #9 2w

I actually have a Book of Mormon I’ve been meaning to read it. The history and theology of the LDS church and the claims they make about Native American origins is a special interest of mine. I was kind of expecting you to be referring to one of the various black nationalist claims about a “moorish-native connection” rather than LDS stuff

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Anonymous #2 2w

I can confidently say that there’s many, many ways a “lamanite origin” for native Americans can be disproved. The first is genetics, which doesn’t show a connection to Semitic populations. Same goes for material culture, diseases, linguistics, crops, domesticated animals. There’s basically nothing to evidence any sort of connection.

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Anonymous #2 2w

Claims of a European or middle eastern origin of the earthen mounds of the southeast were extremely common at the time of Joseph Smith, as were claims of a lost group of Israelites or Welsh in the Americas. It’s fully in line with the beliefs at the time to claim Israelites came to the Americas but modern evidence doesn’t indicate such.

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