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Zionism is based on a false belief that Jewish people have uniquely suffered throughout history. The idea that historic injustices entitle you to expel a native people from a land you want is absolutely and no other group that has suffered feels that way
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Anonymous 11w

Also, a “false belief” that Jewish people have uniquely suffered through history? I already know you’re uneducated about the history of pogroms and early anti-semitism

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Anonymous 11w

Zionism is little more than the concept of Jewish national identity. Kinda like Southern Syrian was the national identity of the people now called Palestinian today. Prior to both national identities, the people of the levant viewed themselves as part of the Ottoman fabric. Both Israelis and Palestinians had active roots in the territory at the time of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. European Jews accelerated this concept of national identity for the Jews in the geographical region of

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Anonymous 11w

Damn, are there any countries that were formed like that? The US perhaps? Should we turn the clocks back to 1700 and give all the land away to the natives? If not, the argument that Israel should stop existing and give the land back to Palestinians is hypocritical.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

Hey surprise surprise, the US also doesn’t have a right to exist and was built on genocide. Unlike Zionists, I stick to my morals regardless of who or what I’m talking about

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

Jewish people are not the only people to have suffered prejudice and persecution?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 11w

Key word is “unique”. Please find another ethnic group that’s been persecuted for as long as the Jews have been.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 11w

So what’s your solution? Everyone can acknowledge both places did bad things historically. No one has a “right to exist”, you declare yourself as existing, like the US did as a separate part of Britain.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

you said "uniquely suffered". just because suffering happened for a long time doesn't mean the ways they've suffered are unique

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

The persecution of Jews is not unique historically, what makes its longevity unusual is that Jewish identity has managed to persist for so long, while other persecuted groups like the numerous pagan faiths or Manichaeans just ceased to exist.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 11w

The Samaritans have a fairly similar history to that of Jews. They were also subject to Roman genocide, but it was under the Byzantines a few centuries later. They received less protections under Muslim rule than Judaism did, which is why there’s now only a few hundred Samaritans.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 11w

Uhhh the people living there currently have a right to exist. That's how it works. US should give as many reparations as possible to native Americans and do whatever they can to ensure they and their culture survives. Israel should do the same in Gaza and the West Bank and stop treating Arabs as second class citizens and allow them back into their homeland. I also think anyone who moved to Israel in the last 5 years into stolen homes should be forced to move out but that's just me

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 11w

Shut the fuck up

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 11w

Palestine, while the Muslim and Christian in the region started first with broad Arab national identity, then Arab Syrian national identity, then eventually Palestinian national identity. But even this wasn’t nearly as strong as the Syrian, Lebanese, or Jordanian national identities until nearly a decade later. To make a modern comparison, this would be like Cherokees returning to Georgia following the fall of the U.S. and being met with hostile conflict. Is it wrong for them to engage

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 11w

In the fighting with the occupants of Georgia? Possibly. Is it condemnable for them to return, buy land, develop a nation, and seek to exist as an independent nation? Hard to say. Would the situation be an ultimate cluster fuck? Yea absolutely, but I find it hard to argue that they should remain in reservations to avoid difficult questions.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11w

Let’s play this out a little. Let’s say the native Cherokee currently living in Georgia align with Cherokee from Oklahoma who are buy large plots of land to develop a structured state. The U.S. falls and each state is promised its own independence along with each tribal nation. Do the residents of Georgia have the right to engage in armed conflict with the Cherokee nation arrivals in Georgia in order to try and deny them a nation state? Do the Cherokee have a right to a nation state there?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 11w

Literally just a toddlers walk through of the development of national identity in the Levantine region and you’re having a tantrum. Have you considered the possibility that you’re just not equipped for reality?

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