Anonymous #1 1w

So your first case is simply an issue of eugenics then right? Second case, I agree with you; the mother has a right to self defense. Third case is putting money over a human life; I don’t understand that.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I don’t see how the first case is eugenics at all

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Anonymous #1 1w

I apologize I meant euthanasia

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Anonymous #2 1w

*reason* about not participating in abortion. To myself, it is absolutely not questionable that humans should be able to decide that raising another human in an unfavorable situation will not be beneficial for that human.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Once again putting money or feelings over a potential human life. Just doesn’t make sense to me

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Anonymous OP 1w

“Potential” human life

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yes I knoww I said potential just so I didn’t get the “oh but it’s not a human life” comments. Not a gotcha moment

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Anonymous OP 1w

Right… so with your logic, humans should just fuck and reproduce mindlessly? You’re telling me there’s something wrong with humans using their advanced intelligence to plan when it would be best to introduce another?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Nowhere did I mention “potential” human life. In fact, I cited examples where primates and birds actively end already existing lives. Care to explain that?

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Anonymous #2 1w

No I think we should use our advanced intelligence to not have sex when we don’t want the chance of bringing a human into the world. Abortion is typically an issue of these “potential” lives. I don’t think we should do infantcide. Do you?

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Anonymous #4 1w

I want to minimize the number of abortions, just as we should want to minimize any medical procedure that costs money, has risk, and requires recovery. Hence the importance of access to preventative contraceptives, early acting contraceptives, and sex ed.

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Anonymous #4 1w

And I do not find the “potential life” argument convincing because sperm is also a potential human life. Every time someone isn’t having unprotected sex is a potential human life which will not exist. We do not have a moral obligation to reproduce as much as possible.

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Anonymous #4 1w

I don’t agree with the potential life argument either, just to clear that up. However, I didn’t know that a human is defined by mental capacity. Wouldn’t a 6 month old be closer in mental capacity to a fetus than to us? Regardless, thank you for peaceably sharing your views

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Anonymous OP 1w

I think that in biology there aren’t easy lines, and that’s hard. There is no moment where something goes from an unthinking fetus to a fully fledged person. We just like vaguely try to compromise around the point of fetal viability generally. But I do know that a fetus is not a person before it has a brain capable of producing consciousness. And this is partly why we need to make abortions easy to get so they can be done early in development rather than having to wait.

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Anonymous OP 1w

When did I say I want humans to commit infanticide? Infanticide is the killing of an out of body youngling or infant. I simply cited that this is something that happens in other animals species. Humans are graced with the technology and knowledge to abort a zygote before it becomes a living and breathing human being. If that’s your perspective, please, go tell the monkeys and birds that sacrifice and/kill their young that it’s wrong. I’m sure they’ll know what you’re saying.

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Anonymous OP 1w

so your entire argument is rooted in the mindset of abstinence? additionally, abortion is not infanticide in any instances. that term refers to the intentional killing of an newborn or infant (or one’s offspring, but always post-birth).

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Anonymous #6 1w

so based on those options, odds are not good that this child is going to have a good life. i agree that having mass amounts of abortions is concerning as a society but banning them is ignorant of healthcare that they provide. if we spent more time targeting sex ed, resources for mothers (esp those with low socioeconomic status), maternity and paternity leave, minimum wage and living costs, the cost of education and childcare, etc, etc, maybe we would see the desired reduction.

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Anonymous #6 1w

but, of course, conservative law makers would never make those changes, hence why many people rightfully believe that it is about controlling women. because, after all, all these conservative politicians are soooo against abortion, until they get their mistresses pregnant

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