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China can change policy but not government. The us can change government/people but we cant change policy. Which is more free?
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Changing people
Changing policy
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Anonymous 1d

China’s government can change policy, China’s people can’t

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Anonymous 1d

China is overrated. It’s an oligarchy, and they - like their ally Russia - are not trustworthy when it comes to assessments of their policies.

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Anonymous 1d

Well China has a more effective state. China has a more coherent and organized society. Are they more free? Pffooo that would be beating us at our own game. I kind of think they are. We let capitalists enslave us. China is single party and the authoritarianism is a little scary but still responsive to people, focused on public good

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Anonymous 1d

Americans still have more personal freedom but the efficiency and results of the Chinese system is undeniable

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1d

They’re very good at propaganda, though.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 1d

for some reason a lot of Americans seem to automatically identify with well off upper class Chinese people and forget that most Chinese people are not that

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

^ An efficient government is also a very efficient tyranny. Governments should be slow, because anything that’s that big and powerful crushes things when it moves. China was very “efficient” when Mao killed all the sparrows and caused that massive famine, for instance.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1d

Yeah. The stuff from normal Chinese people doesn’t cross the great firewall.

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