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Not Bill Maher saying he might vote for JD Vance because “democrats don’t want prisons”. Really cute of him to spread propaganda like that (literally no one wants to get rid of prisons)
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Anonymous 7w

Like this is the exact right wing rhetoric that got trump elected

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Anonymous 7w

The DSA is literally advocating for abolishing prisons

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

Literally takes a two minute google search, it’s on their main platform. Leftists in nyc like darializa chevalier or whatever her name is has spoken about this too. Don’t speak about democrats if you don’t know anything about their policies.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

"abolishing the police and prison system which protects the rich and jails the poor" nice cherry picking

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

Yeah, like #3 said, they want to make the justice system more fair and equal by changing the way it’s structured, not to abolish. I honestly wish they would stop using the word “abolish” because it doesn’t get the right message across. Right wing politicians/media should also stop willfully misinterpreting it so they can fear monger also tho

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Anonymous 7w

Yess, it’s about shifting from punitive justice to restorative justice! That doesn’t mean people stop getting put in jail, it’s just geared more towards rehabilitation

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 7w

“Abolishing the police and prison system” is still advocating for abolishing prisons, even if they add that it protects the rich and jails the poor. From what I’ve seen of DSA leaders speaking, they don’t reference reform but complete abolishment. Would love for them to clarify themselves.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

When they go into the specifics of the policies they want to enact to accomplish abolishing police or prisons, they describe reform, not totally getting rid of the police/prisons. But yeah, again, I wish they would use a different word so that there wouldn’t be this confusion because I totally understand why you got that impression

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 7w

Ah I see. I wasn’t trying to argue in bad faith or anything but when people say abolishment I think most people assume complete abolishment and not some sort or transfer to a new system. I’m glad their position isn’t complete abolishment, but I wish they’d publicly clarify what they mean.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 7w

Oh no it’s okay, I didn’t think you were arguing in bad faith. I am glad to have this convo about it. Same though, I wish they would realize how it comes across & just use a different word

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