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I’m not a moderate on many issues, but I am on China. -They are nowhere near as bad as presented in Western Propaganda. -They are not the great warrior against Imperialism and Capitalism.
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Anonymous 20w

What are your thoughts on their fishing industry?

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Anonymous 20w

Tell me what imperialism they participate in, because having lots of ships is not by itself imperialism

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Anonymous 20w

Hey #2 sorry that the argument ended the dumbass blocked me

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 20w

Outside of their activities in the South China Sea (which I’m not a fan of. Not sure if that’s what you’re referring to though) I don’t really know much about it.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

They have massive fleets that go all over the world - the biggest issue currently is right outside the Galapagos. Tell send hundreds or thousands of vessels to sit right outside a countries EEZ where they’re not allowed to fish. Then the ships turn off their tracking, enter territorial waters to fish, then leave and turn transponders back on

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

Yeah that’s fucked. Bigger countries don’t need to be fucking around in smaller countries’ EEZs.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 20w

Just another example of them not fighting against imperialism ig.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

A map of some largely uninhabited islands circled? And a fishing map? Use your words, this is not imperialism so far

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

I was hoping you’d have understood. My apologies for overestimating you. The nine dash line is chinas military/diplomatic goal to spread chinas influence and EEZ into the South China Sea. Everything within that 9 dash line, they claim. They’ve been tearing up coral atolls to make artificial islands to house military bases in. Their claims extend to right offshore other countries, even if it’s hundreds of miles from their mainland

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

The fishing map is a map of where their massive fishing fleets go and fish. Notice how the majority are outside their own territorial waters, and clustered oftentimes on the edges of other countries? What good is having your own EEZ if another country catches up all the fish that are entering your waters? Plus it’s been proven that they turn off their tracking which is required by international law in order to enter the territorial waters of other countries to fish there anyway

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

They’ve depleted entire ecosystems of fisheries. It’s devastated many economies around the world. They just jump from one high density area, deplete it, then move to the next. If left unchecked, they will end up depleting a majority of the world’s commercial fish supply.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

That sucks but that's not what imperialism is

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

The ocean is not a nation

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

It’s a nations resources. Islands in the ocean are.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

Those islands are largely uninhabited AFAIK

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

So? There’s still wildlife. It still extends a countries EEZ and therefore resources.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 20w

That is AWFUL but it is ✨NOT IMPERIALISM✨ Words have meaning, my guy

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 20w

It fits the definition very well.

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