Anonymous #1 3w

also Yair Rosenberg is a really good political analyst who is highly critical of Netanyahu. that article is accurate and fact based and not at all complementary. October 7th dramatically changed Netanyahu as a politician, that’s not an excuse for anything he did but it’s objectively true

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Anonymous #2 3w

Yeah I looked into him a bit. I’m not sure whether I’d say he avoids conflict but the author seems decent

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Anonymous #1 3w

i would say he did his best to avoid war but he didn’t try to ease or end conflicts

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Anonymous #2 3w

Bro said he’s dreamed of this for 40 years & finally had a US president who was on board. What do you mean he did his best to avoid war & 10/7 changed him. The only reason he didn’t do it sooner was because he didn’t have Americas backing

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Anonymous OP 3w

to the best of my knowledge he never said anything like that and i can’t find the quote, do you have a source? for most of his career he very much opposed a war in gaza and honestly that quote doesn’t make any sense considering Israel only withdrew from gaza in 2005

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Anonymous #2 3w

He only withdrew from Gaza due to it being unmanageable. The IDF was literally killing peaceful protesters & dropping bombs in GAZA well before 10/7 like what are you talking about

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Anonymous OP 3w

prior to 2005, Gaza was occupied by Israel and there were Israeli settlers living there. in 2005, Israel withdrew its settlements and lifted its occupation unilaterally. it doesn’t make sense to say he’s wanted to invade Gaza for 40 years when 20 years ago it was already occupied

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Anonymous #2 3w

im not trying to defend him or israel or anything these are just facts

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Anonymous #2 3w

I just told you it became unmanageable that’s why they pulled out of Gaza but kept bombing it. It does make sense same with the West Bank

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Anonymous OP 3w

Literally a lot of things Bibi did but not to the extent he wanted to because while he did have US support be didn’t have it to the extent that he wanted to go balls to the wall at least until Biden & Trump came along.

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Anonymous OP 3w

that quote is about Iran not Gaza

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Anonymous #2 3w

Many international organizations and UN committees still consider Gaza occupied btw, considering Israel controls the entry and exit of goods and utilities like water and power

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Anonymous OP 3w

bibi was famously risk averse, he never pursued major wars or major peace deals. he favored a policy of maintaining the status quo and people voted for him because he promised that strategy would keep them safe. it was stupid and wrong and it completely fell apart after Oct 7

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Anonymous #1 3w

yeah the blockade is a big human rights issue but the whole point of the blockade was Bibi didn’t want a war

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Anonymous #2 3w

No the main quote is saying what happened on 10/7 was what changed him. I’m saying he wanted to bomb Iran well before 10/7 & 10/7 didn’t radicalize him & what actually changed is he now has the full blown support of the U.S. military. P.S random question but do you think Israel did a genocide as far as the Palestinians are concerned?

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Anonymous OP 3w

he wanted to bomb Iran because they kept threatening to nuke Israel. but he thought it was unwise most of his career and focused on sabotage of the nuclear program. if you read the article, you can see it says the attack on Hezbollah after Oct 7 is what changed his mind about outright war

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Anonymous #2 3w

And I’m saying the writer of the article is wrong. First of all dude has been saying Iran was months away from nukes for 40 years & here we are 40 years later still no nukes. He didn’t do it earlier because he couldn’t get America on board with it. He even said it himself but you’re going to ignore his own words. Let us not forget he hugely urged America to invade Iraq. Dude will use us for wars if he can

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Anonymous OP 3w

Plus he was against the JCPOA which makes no sense assuming you & the writer are correct which you guys aren’t

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Anonymous #1 3w

I disagree

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Anonymous OP 3w

Yair Rosenberg is being clowned & dragged all over the internet because of how ridiculously stupid his article regarding Bibi is

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Anonymous OP 3w

He was against the JPCOA because he thought it didn’t go far enough and he was angry that it had a set expiration date. He spent decades saying Iran was close to nukes which I am also skeptical about but up until recently he was saying that to encourage sanctions not war. And Israel actually didn’t play a big role in encouraging the Iraq war, that was mostly the US and UK

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Anonymous OP 3w

I think you may be in a pretty closed echo chamber

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Anonymous #2 3w

Dawg you’re right the former IDF solider who says Anti Zionism is Antisemitism is who I should trust not my eyes & ears or what Bibi literally just said as far as his reasoning goes. Also you never answered my questioned. Again would you call Israel’s actions in Gaza a genocide?

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Anonymous OP 3w

You don’t have to trust him you can fact check him. You can read his articles and click on the linked sources. Or if you don’t trust the linked sources you could just google whether things happened or not

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Anonymous OP 3w

Also Bibi is a liar, you can look up what he said 3,4,5 years ago and it’s totally different. He’s trying to save face with his (shrinking) base because his original strategy blew up in his face

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Anonymous #2 3w

So are you just going to keep ignoring the question?

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Anonymous OP 3w

I think it’s a hostile and irrelevant question in this context that you’re asking because you know I’m right about this article and you’re running out of ways to deflect. You are planning to use whatever my answer is to discredit anything else I’ve said without actually engaging with any facts. My answer is I don’t know but I certainly think it is possible and should be investigated as it is being investigated by the ICJ. Regardless it is definitely true that major war crimes were committed

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Anonymous #2 3w

Also the facts aren’t on your IDF soldiers side unless we just ignore what Marco Rubio said and Bibi said, and the information that came out about the negotiations. You talking about a echo chamber but have you ever stopped to ask yourself why does everyone hate Zionist & Israel it’s because you guys are delusional

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Anonymous #2 3w

october 7 didnt dramatically change netanyahu as a politician he was already morally corrupt long before 2023 holy shit i cant believe theres people that attend this school that genuinely defend netanyahu

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Anonymous OP 3w

Yeah and Trump just said he dragged Netanyahu into the war, all these people are liars that’s why if you want to understand them you look at your records. And the fact that me saying Bibi’s motivations for his horrendous acts might be different than you’ve heard (but still wrong) makes you assume I’m a Zionist that speaks for Israel tells me I’m not the one who’s delusional

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Anonymous #2 3w

*their records

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Anonymous #3 3w

This isn’t a school-specific community btw

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Anonymous #3 3w

he was hella corrupt well before 2023 i never denied that and i have no intention of defending him. “changed” doesn’t mean he was ever good it just means he changed

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Anonymous #2 3w

i think he should be in front of the ICC right now but i also think it’s important to understand why and how it got to this point

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Anonymous #2 3w

You are literally trying to act like Bibi hasn’t been a war monger for decades. Like what are you on about & point to the works of a former IDF solider who claimed Antizionism isn’t antisemitism. Couldn’t even simply state if Israel did a genocide. Genuinely believe Bibi’s hate for the JCPOA was that it didn’t go far enough which literally makes no sense when you look at everything. Tried to downplay him urging for us to go into Iraq Like be for real.

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Anonymous #2 3w

there needs to be alterations made to the icc and icj in order for anything to actually be passed every resolution has to go through the security council and ultimately gets vetoed or a decision will be made that leads to absolutely no consequences because israel has been violating international law for years now

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Anonymous OP 3w

a) Bibi objectively avoided outright war for most of his career. That doesn’t make him any better than if he was a warmonger, he’s still evil. b) Yair Rosenberg didn’t claim anti-Zionism is antisemitism. As should be obvious from the title screenshot you posted and would be more obvious if you bothered to read the first couple paragraphs of the article, he said anti-Zionism can become antisemitism in certain situations

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Anonymous #2 3w

c) it’s objectively true that Israel wasn’t a major factor in why the US invaded Iraq. We got ourselves into that disaster all by ourselves d) why would it not make sense that Bibi thought the JCPOA wasn’t enough? it makes perfect sense, he wanted stronger guarantees than Iran’s promise e) genocide is a crime with an extremely high burden of proof that can only be determined by a court. i am not a court

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Anonymous #3 3w

and yeah i agree the UN has been basically useless in so many situations and needs reform. the ICJ’s legal ruling in this case is impartial and does have weight though

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Anonymous #2 3w

So as far as the article goes dude literally says “The most consequential form of anti-Zionism today is the one that deploys guns and rockets, supported by an array of apologists who justify their use. Any discussion of whether anti-Zionism is anti-Semitic needs to center that reality” Which is ridiculous. As for Bibi being & Iraq no I do not think Bibi is the sole reason for or invasion or even the main reason I’m pointing to show dude is a war monger who tries to use the US for his

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Anonymous OP 3w

Ambitions. As I’ve said multiple times hell as he said himself he wanted to do this & didn’t do so earlier due to a lack of US support. So to say that it was 10/7 that changed his mind is ridiculous no it wasn’t 10/7 it was the support of Biden & Trump if he had that type of support before 10/7 he would of done it before then. Like he said it’s been a dream of his for 40 years. As for the JCPOA that’s just a lie. Iran was following it even after Trump came into office yet he urged Trump to

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Anonymous OP 3w

Scrap it. He could have waited for Iran to actually break it first but as he said himself he wanted to bomb Iran for 40 years & the JCPOA would prevent that. Not to mention even the most recent negotiations Iran agreed to everything outside of giving up its missiles. Hell it was definitely more then the JCPOA & Israel still bombed them because again like Bibi said he wanted to do for 40 years & he not had the U.S. support. Hell Rubio even said that Israel had already decided to do the attack

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Anonymous OP 3w

Also no not only the ICJ can determine genocide. There’s multiple body’s that can & do the ICJ settles cases between countries. There’s a reason all the major humanitarian organizations & genocide schoolers have concluded that Israel is committing a genocide

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