Anonymous #3 2w

she’s reading statistics in the video this is from. is that insane

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Anonymous OP 2w

You’re making her sound even more insane

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okay! it SOUNDS crazy. now watch the video to see if it is or not.

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Can’t link in the comments - but if you give me about 2 minutes, I can whip up a QR code. Brb

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Here ya go! Fun fact if you didn’t know, the Shortcuts app on iphone can make these for free

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… so we’ve gone from “she sounds crazy” to “she’s not wrong.” And all it took was watching the video instead of judging via screenshot. Hm.

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“I was always led to believe” oh you’re so. friggin. close. to getting it. any other things you were “led to believe” you wanna unpack?

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Well, follow up question. Who told you communism is a sister ideology to nazism? Like, let’s break this down real quick. Nazis and the communists you’re referring to are both totalitarian forms of government - but that’s like. The only thing they share. Nazis retained private ownership and industry, communism instituted a command economy. Nazism js driven by race, communism class. Nazis literally equated communism to criminal activity

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As for MORALITY - that’s gonna vary person by person. But yeah, a genocide’s a genocide. I’d be wary of equating famine and genocide, though. Mao was a killer, yes, but he caused most of his deaths through sheer ecological stupidity

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“You’ve learned ever since high school history class” your high school history class was not politically neutral. ASSUMING you went to public school, your curriculum adheres to a set of state standards. Those state standards aren’t updated by pedagogues, they’re set by elected politicians via passing bills. Those politicians have a vested interest in teaching certain things to bolster their agenda.

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This sounds like a conspiracy, but it’s not. Hold on - Florida’s a great example, they’ve been passing a LOT of political changes to their ed standards recently, let me track down a few

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They literally have a “communism is bad” class now. Which you might agree with! Communism caused a lot of harm. However. This curriculum presents Joe McCarthy as an Unambiguous Good Guy. … you might agree communism is bad. but you can also recognize that is a Very Biased framework to be teaching it in.

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They’re now teaching slavery benefitted some african americans too

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YES! i AGREE with your statement about McCarthyism. that’s not how florida politicians want it taught anymore! And that’s an extreme example. But that happens to all curriculums everywhere - biases sneak in!

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holy hell what okay - out of curiosity, what state was this in? i AM an educator, and there’s literal neutrality laws in my state to prevent me from doing ANYTHING like that. if there were similar in yours, you could report that

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Okay - can’t find any state specific neutrality laws, but MA teachers are still “generally expected” to remain neutral. And as for the political hats specifically, that’s actually a violation of Federal law - the Hatch act.

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The relevant statutes if you care to pursue this further

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Which is why I included what I could find about state specific regulations too lol

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MD was it lmfao - redoing research…

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Yeah because your teachers were shills… the equivalence between nazism and socialism is literally post-war nazi propaganda to try and blame the left for the Holocaust and the war.

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I mean Taiwan was literally founded by fascists who had been slaughtering people who didn’t agree with them for years. Chiang was a fascist demon.

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It’s crazy the level of ad hom you jumped to instead of addressing what 8 mentioned. when the fuck did they claim it was “better for your grandpa to die in the holomodor than the holocaust”?

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 2w

I don’t even think she was arguing with anyone in the original video either iirc

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because it’s a false equivalence. you can dislike communists all you want, but equating them to fucking Nazis only helps the Nazis in the long term. you realize that Naziism is being revived today, right? As you keep trying to draw equivalency between Nazis and communists, the Nazis are rising to power again (along with white supremacist confederates) This is where your own personal bias is impacting you. instead of even considering what they were saying, you jumping to egregious ad hom

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Anonymous #9 2w

Claiming that they would tell you that your grandpa’s death was good or some shit. That’s not good behavior lmao

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you might need to just read the definition of “ad hominem” if you can’t see the correlation.

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Jesus you people are fucking insane. Nowhere did I say that… I don’t support the soviet union, I’m an anarchist, the soviets slaughtered the Makhnovists, who were fighting for an actually free Ukraine.

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The equivalence between the Holodomor and the Holocaust, also known as “double genocide theory” is literally post-war Nazi propaganda 😭 this idea was literally invented to downplay Nazism and the Holocaust. (obviously the famine was real)

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Azov battalion’s strongest soldier lmao.

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you realize that you’re equating outright intentional genocide of millions (in which concentration camps were created for the sole purpose of imprisoning and murdering) with stalins utter stupidity and violence towards dissidence. Also, I feel like it’s needless to say but you do understand that there are varying ideologies within communism, right? Stalinism ≠ communism as a whole. You’re upset with Stalinism, don’t project it onto communism entirely

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Again where did I justify the Holodomor? I’m my view, the USSR became a reactionary, revisionist government extremely quickly, arguably as soon as they striped power from the actual soviets, and began trying to rebuild the Russia Empire. Read about communists and socialists that aren’t Marxist-Leninists.

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Like that scumbag definitely weaponized hunger and famine in attempts to quell any perceived pushback, but you’re equating that with Hitler (who did the same while also expanding their oppression towards anyone not perceived to be “ayran”)

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You aren’t just susceptible to propaganda, you dove face-first into it.

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let’s not forget how they were gassed, forcibly moved from their homes to the camps, and how it wasn’t solely based on their ethnicity or nationality. let’s not forget how Hitler targeted the queer community, and educators, and *everyone* who did not abide by his attempts to garner power.

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maybe ask yourself why you need to equate communism and Naziism so bad (especially while ignoring the actual contents of any communist belief, and while avoiding focusing on the actual ideology that resulted in the holodomor)

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 2w

With glee at this rate

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What a backhanded apology. “I’m sorry you feel the need to be offended.”

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Stalinism was authoritarian, partially Marxist-Leninism, but these are all different ideologies within communism (just like how under capitalism, there are various pro-capitalism sub-ideologies of economic organization) you’re complaining about Stalinism, and most of us communists also dislike Stalin. what you’re referring to is not communism as a whole, but specifically Stalinism. THAT is the propaganda we were telling you about.

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How are communism and Nazism sister ideologies? One’s an economic system and the other is a political ideology. Just because Stalin was an autocrat doesn’t mean communism is ruined as a system due to that. Do you know what economic system the Nazis used?

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because you’re not calling out genocidal ideologies, you’re generalizing everyone you don’t like as ascribing to those. here, I’ll use myself as an example for you. I am a communist, not a Stalinist. I’m a communist who entirely disapproves of Stalin and his actions (which include the holodomor) with that being said, should we maybe focus on the genocides being perpetrated TODAY and who is responsible for those?

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What the actual fuck is this level of delusion? Stop making up bullshit in your mind in order to justify your dogma. who is committing the genocides seen around the world today? are ANY of them the result of communists?

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like you’re so fixated on communism to the point where you seemingly don’t give a fuck about the modern rise of fascism via neonaziism and neoconfederacy

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You still haven’t answered my question. What economic system did the Nazis use?

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Despite the fact that some of the first holocaust victims were known socialists?

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so capitalism.

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Nordic states today are social democracies for the most part, capitalist with heavy regulation in favor of social stability.

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Y’all literally tried to overturn an election by enacting a coup at the capital and threatening to execute members of the government. You can’t genuinely be serious. There’s one side that can’t take election losses and it’s not the left.

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