Anonymous #1 2d

No I agree, just saying this is silly. Your money is going to a capitalist no matter where you buy from, so it’s funny to invent a guy to critique

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Anonymous OP 2d

Yeah but it’s clearly better to spend money at corporations smaller than Amazon, harm reduction is a legitimate thing, even if it’s not ideologically perfect it’s still better than nothing

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Anonymous #1 2d

Infantilization of the harm caused by small businesses and their exploitation really is so pathetic. There are “Mom and pop” businesses that operate just as cruelly as the big guys

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Anonymous OP 2d

100%, try buying from the corporations that do the least harm You’re not going to find totally ethical consumption, I agree with that, but it doesn’t mean small actions of harm reduction are useless or impossible Not every single business has as predatory of anti-union and anti-workers policies as Amazon and I think it’s absurd to claim that

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Anonymous #1 2d

I wasn’t claiming there are no options for harm reduction, just that nitpicking about which exploiter is “the best” is useless in the end

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Anonymous OP 2d

boycotts are not useless lmfao you debbie downer

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Anonymous #1 2d

Didn’t say boycotts were useless in the short term, just that they are useless “in the end”

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Anonymous OP 2d

yeah, all is useless in the end, we all will turn to dust and nothing will matter or be remembered so yeah I agree

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Anonymous #1 2d

And I’m the Debbie downer lmao. I’m saying boycotts are not the end all be all, we have to rid ourselves of capitalism all together

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Anonymous OP 2d

If saying nothing matters in the end bc we all turn to dust is being a debbie downer then idk what to tell you Removing capitalism would require a global revolution, I don’t know if that’s realistically feasible

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Anonymous #1 2d

Sure it isn’t feasible with talk like that, get to work you got a lot of convincing to do

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Anonymous #2 2d

Never said you shouldn’t when you have the ability, just that we can’t “lesser evil” forever

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Anonymous OP 2d

I can’t think of any American candidate, scratch that, any politician that didn’t have some evil or irredeemable quality, of course that’s not me saying there aren’t lines we should draw but we’re always going to have immorality and evil in a human system

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Anonymous #1 2d

Sounds to me like you need a better system

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Anonymous OP 2d

it’s not an issue with the system, it’s an issue with humanity itself we have a biological imperative to self-preserve and reproduce, those things will trump morality 99 times out of 100, you can’t just weed out immorality or antisocial behavior by getting rid of capitalism, that’s idealism, not realism

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Anonymous OP 2d

I do agree capitalism is awful but anyone believing socialism would lead to absolute utopia is underestimating the capacity for humans to make mistakes or selfish decisions even in a cooperative system

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Anonymous #1 2d

Human nature is not some inflexible thing, it’s not human nature to be on a fucking smartphone yet we created and designed them. Human nature is dependent on our material conditions, we change that, our “nature” changes too

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Anonymous OP 2d

Yes, but again, even in a cooperative system that encourages mutual benefit, there will still be antisocial and immoral behavior and even just honest mistakes, the economic system doesn’t make a psychopath less psychopathic, some people are just born that way, it’s not just nurture, it’s NATURE AND NURTURE you can only change one without gene editing and we still don’t know enough about the brain to genetically engineer kinder more cooperative people

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Anonymous #1 2d

No shit, and Marxism isn’t utopian, real Engles “Socialism: Utopian and scientific”

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Anonymous OP 2d

*read

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Anonymous OP 2d

I just don’t agree that scarcity of necessities will necessarily go away, as we produce more, work doesn’t necessarily decrease nor does sharing necessarily increase, electricity used to be a luxury, now it’s a necessity, cell service is quickly becoming a necessity despite being a luxury for a while, the goalposts on necessity shift to make the abolition of scarcity seem merely theoretical Plus previous socialist revolutions merely installed new ruling classes like the bureaucrats of the USSR

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Anonymous OP 2d

Are you saying you don’t have the ability to not buy from Amazon?

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Anonymous #2 2d

Illiteracy crisis omg

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Anonymous OP 2d

you don’t need to buy things from Amazon to participate in society 😭

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Anonymous #1 2d

Missing the damn point, my point is there is harm within the entire system, and we need to do a lot more than just boycott Amazon. Not saying it’s not a good thing to shop at “better” places

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Anonymous OP 2d

agreed, but boycotting Amazon is an easy thing to do, those that criticize capitalism yet can’t even boycott Amazon seem like hypocrites to me

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Anonymous #1 2d

No shit, fuck yall are dense

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Anonymous #1 2d

It’s a good thing then that no knowledgeable socialist has ever promised utopia. Please know what you’re talking about before commenting on it

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Anonymous #1 2d

“We can’t make a perfect system so why try to improve it at all”

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