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It’s insane how many leftists will defend extremely obviously corrupt awful governments as long as they pretend to be leftist.
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Anonymous 2w

I say this as a leftist. Like you don’t have to do that. There’s no legal requirement to lie to yourself you can just say “yeah these guys corrupted the vision in search of personal wealth and power.” Nobody is thinking better of you for defending north Korea my guy.

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Anonymous 2w

Give an example of

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Anonymous 2w

Most leftists would rather push harmful forms of government than admit flaws and work to resolve them

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Like influential North Korean politician Hwang Jang-yop literally wrote a book after his defection saying that the Kims have “built feudalism instead of socialism.” You can just say “yeah those guys corrupted their values.”

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

i'm convinced y'all are operating on a stupid fuckin head canon and fake conversations in your mind. did you really even say anything at all here? feely ass mf

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

The most apt example is people defending the North Korean government, due to how stratified it has made their society and how severely authoritarian it is, to the detriment of its citizenry.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

I never really see people defending North Korea although I do see people criticizing the creation of North & what the Citizens went through during that process. The only time I see real defense of the current regime from leftist is when responding to claims like the citizens push trains, or live off of rats the size of dogs

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

I mean if it makes you feel any better I’ve never met an actual North Korea defender irl in my entire life and I’ve been in multiple far-left organizations

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Anonymous replying to -> cheese_of_the_world_unite 2w

I think a lot of the worst tendencies of “the left” are online things

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Anonymous replying to -> cheese_of_the_world_unite 2w

Also, there’s a difference between debunking straight up lies about North Korea and actually caping for the regime. America lies about the DPRK all the time, but that doesn’t mean EVERY negative thing about the DPRK is CIA propaganda. I think that’s where a lot of leftists get fucked up. They see that America clearly lies about North Korea, and then assume every negative aspect of North Korea is just State Department bullshit. There’s nuances there that a lot of people ignore.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

I’ve met a few Mao and Stalin defenders, but I’ve never once met an NK defender irl. Don’t forget that these countries, just like the US, engage in mass disinformation campaigns online and use tons of bots. It’s like asking right-wing influencers who bankrolls their owner company (it’s always Russia lmao)

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Anonymous replying to -> cheese_of_the_world_unite 2w

People don’t realize that sometimes propaganda can just be spreading a true thing. Propaganda doesn’t have to be inherently true or false, it can be both, as long as it fits the propagandistic goal of those spreading it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #5 2w

I’ve encountered people who outright say the North Korean regime is good, though never irl. There’s a user on here called orangutan who I have seen do it a number of times. I believe they have me blocked now.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Right, the facts within propaganda can be true. They can also be lies. The most effective propaganda is a mix of both, which is what US narratives on North Korea tend to be. The US will point out the legitimate issues, and then also include some truly over the top bullshit just to nail it in a little more that they’re The Bad Guy Country.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

They are trolls, troglodytes, or both. Never have I ever met a Kim fan

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