Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

yes but back then blue basically meant what red means right now, party values have swapped since then

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Anonymous OP 1d

be careful speaking with enemyofmyenemy, they suck and everyone hates them for good fucking reason

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Anonymous OP 1d

What in the world is that based on (Your AP textbook) How is the 1861 South Carolina democrat party even close to either party today wtf kind of Mr. Beat John Green public school stupid education do you get that you refuse to let go of

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Anonymous #2 1d

try me sweetheart

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

i have. youre insufferable and intolerable. and you are very aware of it. youve acknowledged it.

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

well it’s pretty simple, democrats during that time were slave owners and republicans opposed it, and now democrats oppose racism and the same klan members from back then who called themselves democrats now march with republicans 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Anonymous #2 1d

But like, it’s fun. Anyone really putting their heart and soul into this app deserves to be poked at a little bit It’s why I like the criticism Other than my garbage personality, is there actually something you dislike about me

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

well everything you do on here is completely inextricably bound to your godawful personality, including your political takes, your non political takes, and whatever else you put on here

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Anonymous OP 1d

That is a 6th grade understanding It’s depressing you have such a binary understanding of hundreds of years of history. Many democrats were not pro slavery and many republicans did not want to end slavery. ‘If you oppose racism then you’re a Democrat’ is silly. No political party in the world judges people based only on their race like the Democrat party

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Anonymous #2 1d

Give me something to work with I have nothing against you What is a concept I have missed that you can help me with

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

you think the democratic party hasn’t shifted values in 150 GODDAMN YEARS but i have a sixth grade understanding? alright man

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Anonymous OP 1d

I didn’t say that, I don’t believe that, and I made that clear by saying that 1861 South Carolina democrats are not the democrats of today. I submit to you that politics and Americans are more complicated than red team blue team I submit to you that people don’t hate you for being different, they hate you because they’re afraid you might be a good person and would shatter their worldview

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

theyre referring to the party switch. are you familiar with that reality?

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Anonymous #2 1d

I would argue the party switch, as it is taught, is ahistorical. There is no magic switch in 1964 where republicans and democrats switched sides on everything. Democrats started moving less conservative in the 1920s and 1930s, and weren’t truly progressive and liberal until the 1980s 1990s Republicans lost minority support in the 1930s, pushed civil rights reform through the 50s and 60s, and by the 80s pivoted towards conservative politics, and did not have control over the south until 2000.

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

so the party switch, a term that refers to democrats and republicans ideologically swapping conservatism and progressivism, is "ahistorical," but also democrats went from conservative to progressive from the 20s to the 90s, and republicans did the opposite over the same time frame? is that what youre trying to say? or is what you said not what you meant

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Anonymous #2 1d

Your description is just stealing my post and putting your position over top of it

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Anonymous #2 1d

It is a middle school, baby’s first politics description to say that the parties switched in the 60s-70s Boomers are unbelievably narcissistic, and watching the Southeast and northeast generally flip parties from their youth to their old age, and have cursed us by summing all that history up into one stupid term they repeat incessantly. Eventually, you become old enough to have a more educated opinion.

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

thanks for the reddit posts that completely ignores the concept that progressivism and conservatism are relative to their time period. lincoln's abolition (that he didnt really support that much) was progressive. but sure! lets listen to 54k reddit karma u/Truth-or-Peace and their certainly unquestionable facts and logic about how the party switch is a silly concept because policies are different now than they were then

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Anonymous #2 1d

why the fuck am i even engaging with the stupid piece of shit that is you. absolutely dreadful human being whose presence i couldnt wish on anyone

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Anonymous #2 1d

Cope you don’t have an argument, you just repeat what you were told to believe

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

yea yea call it cope when its literally me pointing out what is a progressive concept but that destroys 54k of reddit karma worth of arguing for you even if they werent arguing even remotely the same subject and just gave a breakdown that is at best tangentially related to what is discussed here now fuck off you piece of filth. try making a friend that isnt an insufferable fuckwit that cant speak honestly and cant read to save their lives. try to learn what speaking in good faith is

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Anonymous enemyofmyenemy 1d

go get your political opinions from r/conservative or r/libertarian or r/constitutionalist or whatever the fuck stupid reddit community you deem the most knowledgeable because redditors are famously intelligent and educated individuals and not bumfuck idiots talking out of their ass

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