Anonymous #1 10w

Domestic terrorism

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Anonymous #1 10w

Were they, or were they not, trying to spread fear for political gain?

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 10w

The legal definition for terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, civilians, or a segment of society to further political objectives, whereas an insurrection attempt is a violent, revolt-like effort by a group of people to resist, overthrow, or subvert the lawful authority and functioning of a government. J6 aligns more closely with the latter.

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Anonymous #1 10w

An insurrection falls under domestic terrorism. Look it up google is free.

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Anonymous #3 10w

I literally took a class on terrorism in one of the best EMHS departments in the nation I’ll trust my professors over Google ✌️😭

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Anonymous #1 10w

“Hang Mike pence” wasn’t a chant used to intimidate a government?

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Anonymous #1 10w

Fantastic. So you'll understand that the fbi concluded that it was Domestic Terrorism along with the DOJ.

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Anonymous #1 10w

This honestly feels like a squares and rectangles situation.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 10w

Intimidate a government to further political objectives. Were the insurrectionists trying to coerce the government into changing policy or were they trying to disrupt/replace the lawful governmental order?

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 10w

I mean yeah it basically is 😭

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Anonymous #1 10w

They were trying to change many policies, mail-in voting for one.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 10w

Reason why I’m arguing this in the first place is because I had to write a paper about two terrorist events in the last 10 years and J6 wasn’t allowed because it was considered an insurrection attempt

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Anonymous #1 10w

How about you tell us what they were trying to do then person who took a class on terrorism. What was their goal?

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Anonymous #1 10w

Do you think maybe J6 wasn’t allowed because of a bias from the instructors? Not saying I know, just speculating.

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Anonymous #3 10w

Their goal was to disrupt the certification of the electoral college and keep Trump in power

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 10w

My professor was a raging liberal who was close with our Dem org and made fun of a kid wearing an ICE hat to class

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Anonymous #1 10w

Which can be classified as trying to coerce a government into doing their will...

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Anonymous #3 10w

The insurrections were trying to do that themselves. They wanted to physically steal the ballots to delay the count, not coerce the government into delaying it.

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Anonymous #1 10w

The professor isn’t the end all of college authority, someone up the university latter could’ve strong armed them. Like how some schools aren’t allow to speech in-depth on evolution.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 10w

Speak*

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 10w

She didn’t give af about higher ups either from what I know. She literally smoked weed with students, lowkey slay

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Anonymous #1 10w

Alright, I guess. I’m gonna take your word on your professor’s stances. And, though I’m not qualified to argue with a professional, maybe she made a mistake?

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 10w

Look overall J6 has several overlaps with terrorism and an insurrection attempt but considering their main goal was to overthrow a lawful governmental order I think it’s pretty safe to say it aligns more with an insurrection attempt.

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Anonymous #1 10w

The ballots were already counted my guy. They had the data. What would they have done with the ballots? Why delay the count? Your points aren't adding up here bud

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Anonymous #3 10w

They were in debate on the certification of Arizona ballots when they breached the Capitol. These people were crazy so who knows what they would have done, thrown them in the Potomac idk. They probably would’ve done something insanely stupid because they spend 18 hours a day in their mom’s basement.

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Anonymous #1 10w

It’s closer to an insurrection, I agree. But to deny it being terrorism as well is where I disagree.

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Anonymous ireallylikepancakes 10w

Not fully denying the terrorism aspect but legally it more closely fits with the definition of an insurrection attempt that’s all. Sorry for making this whole thing semantics 😭

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Anonymous #1 10w

It’s fine.

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Anonymous #1 10w

A violent insurrection attempt is definitionally an act of domestic terror lmao

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Anonymous #1 10w

I’m failing to understand why it can’t be both of these things and why this is a hill you want to die on

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Anonymous #1 10w

I get what you’re saying. We need to talk about these things as they are, and can also argue what fits into these categories. Insurrectionists have been considered domestic terrorists, but that changes the understanding of the legality and punishments denoted for these kinds of actions. I think in the future, we will consider the actions of J6ers as terroristic, but the event of J6 is defined by an insurrection. Like, we do that for the French Revolution still.

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