Anonymous #1 6d

The Nazis were considered such an over-the-top force of evil in the world that many couldn’t ever imagine themselves succumbing to the same tricks they had employed. Similarly, the genocide of native Americans and establishment of chattel slavery are horrific chapters of human history, but they can’t be “evil,” because that ignores the fact that they were ultimately human actions, committed by people just as sane as you or myself.

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Anonymous #1 6d

They are evil tho…as a race and a collective (white people) have committed horrible atrocities for centuries even today. They crave power and influence and always want to be recognized it should really be studied.

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Anonymous #1 6d

Not just the nazies tho there isn’t one race on this planet white people haven’t harmed, suppressed or done acts of malice in someway historically…

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Anonymous OP 6d

It has been studied, this is literally the basis of CRT. Race is socially constructed, therefore there do not exist any essentially White behaviors. This perceived craving for power and influence does exist, but it’s a product of the aforementioned globalized colonial (later neocolonial, then neoliberal) domination of the global south, in which this idea of “whiteness” (a number of behaviors and identities associated with these colonizers) is enshrined as a cultural ideal to which to aspire.

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Anonymous OP 6d

I had used the Nazis as an example of the danger in labeling something as evil. It exonerates us in the present from believing we too are susceptible to the conditioning required for a population to support a genocide.

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Anonymous #1 6d

The world would be far simpler if this were merely a problem for the “evil” whites, but that just is not the case. We cannot moralize on racial boundaries or we risk falling into the exact trap I’m referring to. How were 10s of thousands of Hutu Rwandans compelled to slaughter 800,000 Tutsis in ~100 days? Were they just “evil” too, or should we perhaps look more closely to avoid a similar tragedy in the future?

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Anonymous #1 6d

Which is what they are trying to cover up and ban in schools…wonder why??? Your trying to differentiate white peoples as a collective from the acts and behaviors there race does. It’s very plain I’m not saying all white people are bad cause everyone has different values and perceptions but their race as a collective is vile. Even in America white people are taught that they are superior, because it matters to them.

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Anonymous OP 6d

You aren’t being racist in the academic sense because your words don’t currently hold institutional backing, but I would encourage you to consider how you’d feel hearing a white person say the same shit about literally any other race, as they often do. You sound like my ex-girlfriend’s racist dad talking about Mexican people. “I don’t hate all of them, I just think they’re culturally inferior, immoral, and vile. They aren’t bad, we all have different values is all”

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yes, White people are implicitly conditioned to feel superior in most parts of the US. You are making a leap beyond that premise that I can’t feel comfortable with. Consider what loser racists on the internet like to gather from that bullshit “13% of Americans commit 50% of the crime” stat. Do Black American communities’ disproportionate susceptibility to crime indicate some hidden, inherent truth about all Black Americans? No fucking shot, obviously not.

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Anonymous #1 6d

White people have said far worst about my race even your president has said bluntly racist shit about Hispanics and Balck People and fan his racist white supremacist followers. If you are white which I am Assuming you are based on your responses it’s important to acknowledge the horrible acts your race has done and is still doing to people today. I’m not saying you should feel bad or hate your race but choose to be better…I literally got called the N word just walking home before…

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Anonymous #1 6d

I didn’t call white people inferior I said there evil as a race and it’s actually valid. For you to say there’s no institutional backing absurd..this country was built on racism it’s literally imbedded in this countries institutions

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Anonymous OP 6d

I’m mixed but can pass as white depending on the environment. I PROMISE you I have these conversations with my white and BIPOC friends regularly. I’m on a college campus, like 70% of the white people I speak with would agree with your assertions surrounding their vile history. Interrogating that history is NOT the point of contention here. Don’t call Donald Trump my president or assume my ignorance because I disagree. I understand and sympathize with your anger toward whiteness in general.

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Anonymous #1 6d

Here you go again it’s not in most states ITS IN ALL OF THE STATES…quit trying to minimize the shit and act like you don’t see what tf I’m talking about. You know exactly what points I’m making you just don’t wanna accept the fact that white people are destructive, and truly vile people.

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Anonymous OP 6d

Bro, I am accepting that many white people are destructive and vile. I AM ARGUING AGAINST RACE REALISM HERE. IT IS SO SIMPLE. YOU ARE ALIGNING YOURSELF WITH THE KLANSMEN OF THE WORLD BY GIVING THE IDEA OF A WHITE “RACE” AND CREDENCE. Many white people are SOCIALLY CONDITIONED to act in a racist, bigoted manner. That is significantly different from your assertion that white people are inherently evil creatures. I think that’s a counterproductive, ineffective, and childish argument.

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Anonymous #1 6d

So your argument is that white peoples aren’t violent there taught to these behaviors and taught these negative values… My argument is that as a whole there race is evil. Period. If you put someone in an area and all there shown is representation of there race..at every level of society taught of the accomplishments of there race and you flip that and show how there race has given crumbs to other races (black people, Asians, Indians, Hispanics)

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Anonymous #1 6d

/2 Why wouldn’t that person feel a sense of entitlement. Programs like DEI which the right and (mostly white people) have demonize was started to help minorities elevate in life and obtain equal opportunity in high positions. Which before it was mostly representation of white men or predominantly white people.. It wasn’t until modern times they wanted to role back on policies like that cause they saw more minorities achieve positions of power and influence. Which is why they labeled them as

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yeah that’s just literally false. I don’t think we can take this any further, but I seriously don’t think accepting the pseudo-scientific concept of race (as invented by and for white people in their conquests) is a great move for any BIPOC community. Blackness has similarly been socially constructed as a response to existing as a semi-colony within the broader United States. The only people that will agree with you on the inherent evil of other races are the same racists we’ve been deriding

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Anonymous #1 6d

/3 unqualified or ignorant or republicans favorite word “woke” appointments. Which is another examples of how they crave power and influence.

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Anonymous OP 6d

People crave power and influence, men especially (an actually viable category to make grand assertions about given how testosterone influences behavior) White people have been in a position to seize that power and influence as they’ve organized the modern world in such a manner that enables them to. You leave the realm of academic discourse when you stop considering the real, testable factors that contribute to this worldview, and start to chalk it up to race.

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Anonymous #1 6d

You’re clearly too far gone to understand what I’m saying and that’s fine. But choose to be delusional in your one demotional ass way of thinking. Like ur really gonna sit here and act like white people aren’t fucking dangerous as a fucking race…

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Anonymous #1 6d

As non-white people, accepting whiteness on its face as anything other than an invention by (especially wealthy) whites for their own benefit only serves to continue to benefit those same powerful white people.

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Anonymous OP 6d

lol, lmao even. I’m doing my best here. No, I don’t believe the white race exists. I think a poor white person and a poor black person have far more in common than a poor white person does with a rich one. Race is necessary to consider in the US, but it’s often used to obfuscate what would otherwise be the recognition of mutual class interest among working class voters of all races.

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Anonymous #1 6d

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - Lyndon B Johnson.

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Anonymous #1 6d

What you levy against the whole of the fucking dangerous white race, has historically applied to a number of especially wealthy white elites. This is not to exonerate the complicance in racist institutions of white people from all generations, and I agree that this needs to be interrogated by every well meaning white person. But it is important to acknowledge that the “evils of the white race” weren’t decided on by committee

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Anonymous OP 6d

I know you believe I’m delusional, but just try to understand what I mean. I’m not making excuses for the bloody history of whiteness or contemporary so-called “colorblind” white people today. I am simply BEGGING you to reconsider your conception of race. I’m actively learning my masters in history, and there has never been a racial essentialist that’s been looked upon fondly in retrospect.

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Anonymous #1 6d

Take a note from Huey Newton’s book and recognize that beyond its role as a necessary category for recognizing material realities such as genocide, colonization, and systemic oppression, as well as coalition building, race exists merely as some old white dude’s fanfiction from the 17th century.

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Anonymous #1 6d

I understand that white people experience a different reality in the US that can predispose many of them to bigotry and defense of the status quo, but I think it should be more than obvious that this alone isn’t adequate support for the white people are inherently evil claim.

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