Anonymous #1 37w

Wow! I never knew that! It’s not like I’ve been constantly inundated with pretty much this exact point for literal years! Astounding! Yeah shut up. There are never going to be guardrails and you know it. Lawmakers are too worried about China getting the upper hand or whatever.

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Anonymous #1 37w

And also, you just described the best case scenario that I listed. AI destroys the entire white collar workforce. Surely this will improve our lives and not utterly destroy the careers of millions of people.

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Like all technologies, the harm comes from the people wield it rather than the technology itself (unless AI destroys us, which is very possible). But we’ve banned bioweapon research for a reason, and I think the same consideration needs to be given to AI. Not to say I think billionaires are fine. My stance on them is that I think they should all be lined up and [made to see the error of their ways through the power of friendship].

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Anonymous OP 37w

No need to inform me on the damage our lovely ruling caste has done to our people, culture, rights, and planet. I am painfully aware already.

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Anonymous #3 37w

Any AI that is designed with the sole purpose of destroying peoples’ minds and lives . This includes things like agentic AI, as well as any AI that makes text, images, or videos.

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Anonymous OP 37w

That’s not the sole purpose of agentic AI and you know damn well 💀

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Anonymous #1 37w

It isn’t? Then what’s it for? Because to me it seems as though agentic AI’s purpose is to take the human mind out of making decisions or collecting and looking for information.

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I pretty much totally agree with you. I don’t completely hate AI, and I recognize its usefulness in research, but those are niche applications for specialized AI that doesn’t really have the potential to destroy us or take jobs. And while I heavily dislike LLMs and think that image/video genAI should be banned because of the threat it poses to democracy and the ease at which it makes nonconsensual porn, I don’t mind people running an LLM assistant on their local hardware.

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Limiting AI use to local hardware or small computing clusters for research seems like a good way to go for me, and I don’t really see a reason to give AI unlimited compute that’s beneficial to society.

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Anonymous OP 37w

That doesn’t mean it destroys people’s minds. Doing stupid paperwork and other mundane tasks destroys people’s minds too. Does that mean the sole purpose is to destroy minds?

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Anonymous OP 37w

Are you not educated in what video game AI is?

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Anonymous #1 37w

Paperwork doesn’t erode our ability to do research. Having an AI serve you the news, even if our corporate overlords are completely good-hearted and don’t introduce a bias into it, means that you lose the ability to see the world around you without AI.

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Anonymous #3 37w

I mean, I guess video game AI is often designed with the sole purpose of killing the player character, if that’s what you mean.

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Anonymous OP 37w

Say it is exactly that, how is that destroying countless jobs or eliminating the white collar workforce?

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Anonymous #3 37w

“My prediction for 50% of entry level white collar jobs being disrupted is 1-5 years, even though I suspect we’ll have powerful AI (which would be, technologically speaking, enough to do most or all jobs, not just entry level) in less than 5 years.” - Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic AI

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Anonymous OP 37w

“Disrupted” seems like such a nebulous word tbh. Bro just needs more money from investors

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Anonymous #1 37w

When discussing the job market, “disrupted” means the same thing as “jobs are going to disappear”.

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Anonymous OP 37w

That has nothing to do with video game ai, its fundamentally different

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I mean we already rent for compute, no? I must be missing something lol

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Oh, I completely agree. It’s the same as it’s always been: get the public reliant on a subscription and don’t let them have the means to make it themselves. It’s the same philosophy that car manufacturers and phone companies take when it comes to repairability. Technofascism is 100% the end goal of these people, and our supposed “representatives” are rolling out the red carpet for it. It’s time to seriously organize and try to finally rid ourselves of capitalism.

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Anonymous #1 37w

Explain? I’ve never rented even a second of compute, have you?

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Anonymous OP 37w

Isn’t starting a server in the cloud “renting compute”?

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Anonymous #1 37w

Mirroring what number 2 said, but I’m also taking the opportunity to brag that I run a home server.

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I don’t think consumer-based hardware will be degraded, but buying equipment for stuff like games and graphics rendering could become pretty expensive if they don’t scale up production. I looked this quote up on Reddit and some people mentioned Stadia. I’ve never tried it but I heard good things about it until Google killed it (as always)

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Hmmm. Maybe? But how would you even access your rented compute if you didn’t have access to consumer hardware?

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I think there will always be a demand for non-cloud hardware from consumers and businesses as a result of data security and residency concerns, otherwise they could have already done this. Companies have switched to very exploitative licensing models in the past, but sometimes it’s so bad that companies cut their contracts and a new company fills the gap in because they see a major opportunity

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Anonymous #1 37w

It literally does. We already have a wealth of evidence on the cognitive damage of AI use. It makes us dumber and less capable, by design.

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Anonymous #3 37w

Video game AI is not at all the same thing as LLMs.

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Anonymous #3 37w

Yeah because it isn’t about that you’re the one who has no idea what he’s talking about

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Anonymous #1 37w

Yeah two of those things are very different from the rest. They use very different technology than the LLMs used for like chat. You people only lump those two in to try and defend your indefensible industry. The second two you listed are extremely evil examples, because of how dangerous they are. The consequences of handing those tasks to what is essentially a random output machine are already well documented.

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it should just be banned. like full on Dune Butlerian Jihad, if you try to make AI you go to prison for a long time. That’s how insanely evil this technology is, that’s why it’s the favorite of the Epstein class

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Anonymous #1 37w

But it’s literally happening already?

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Anonymous #1 37w

There’s a ton of demand right now and all the suppliers are abandoning consumer sales anyways because AI pays more (despite making no profit ever). These aren’t normal industries, you can’t just make more manufacturers, not when the facilities cost billions and involve immense state secrets.

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Anonymous #4 37w

That is literally my point

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Anonymous #4 37w

lol “if you try to make AI you go to prison for a long time” Code is a form of free speech. If we’ve already forgotten why that was a legal win, we’ve absolutely lost the plot. People who wrote code for encryption used to be required to register as arms dealers and get a license before they could write encryption code.

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Anonymous #1 37w

See Bernstein v US. It was also cited by Apple in the San Bernardino shooter case for why the government could not compel Apple to make a tool that would let the FBI break into the shooter’s phone

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I’m an anti capitalist. I think AI should be banned and violently surprised in that context.

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Anonymous #1 37w

i do not care. if you make surveillance tech for the pedocracy, you’re a criminal and should go away for a long time. the tech itself isn’t necessarily the issue, it’s that it’s exclusively being developed as a tool for violent social control, and that to run it takes extreme ecocide.

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Anonymous #4 37w

“I do not care” Well you should, because that court case is what’s keeping DHS from forcing Apple to unlock the phone of every single citizen that criticizes the government

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the tech was created by and for evil people. there’s literally no positive or beneficial use for it.

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404 nuance not found 😭

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what nuance is there in technology created by and for the epstein class for the express purpose of mass surveillance and murder

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Anonymous #4 37w

No one said this discussion was specific to LLMs. They said AI

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Anonymous #4 37w

That’s the same logic as saying a calculator makes you bad at mental math. It can be if you use it as a crutch, instead of an assistant for mundane work that frees up your energy and time for other tasks

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Anonymous #4 37w

You do understand why some people think this is unreasonable, right? You’re saying that technologies that help people automate mundane tasks, and summarize large email threads, discover drugs, and predict how proteins fold are expressly created for mass surveillance and murder?

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