How come every single amendment seems to be bendable and up to interpretation but the second is seen as iron tight? Y’all never talk about the 14th with this much blind zealotry.
Because for these 2A absolutists, red flag laws are attacks on their culture. Which apparently means they identify with beating their spouses and larping as frontiersmen while doing nothing about actually tyranny.
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Anonymous10w
As long as they can keep their guns we all can get screwed
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Anonymous10w
You didn't ask me any of my opinions, I agree that the 14th should be respected in the same regard.
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Anonymous10w
Bc all of the 2A posters on here only gaf about the 2A and none of the other rights, as well as having the most strict interpretation of the 2A.
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Anonymous#110w
Red flag laws aren't the same thing as banning domestic abusers lol
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Anonymous#110w
They're literally just a mechanism for the state to remove your rights without due process
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Anonymous#410w
Are you more libertarian or purely right leaning cause like that changes how I respond to you
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Anonymous#410w
Do you think it was bad when Trump tried to stop a legitimate election and was still on the ballot? Do you think it was bad when he tried to overturn birthright with an eo?
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AnonymousOP10w
I wouldn't really describe myself as either but liberal I guess
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Anonymous#410w
Nope. Not having it. And explaining why is futile because as things stand, you are incapable of understanding why you are wrong.
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Anonymousblue__wave10w
Just as bad as when George Bush did the same type of shit yet nobody will even mention him
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Anonymousblue__wave10w
I think the system we have is wholly fucked besides maybe a few figures such as Massie
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Anonymous#410w
That’s chrome, I personally still think we should really consider that this country needs proper gun regulations but I respect that you actually give a shit about the other amendments.
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Anonymous#110w
I'm doubtful that you could explain why the ability to take away people's gun rights prior to any criminal conviction or court determination of mental deficiency is not a mechanism for the government to take away your rights without due process anyways
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Anonymous#410w
Are talking about bush v gore. I mean what Trump did was worse but I agree that situation was pretty fucked.
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Anonymous#410w
Idk if you rlly answered any of those questions
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AnonymousOP10w
I just don't think that proper gun regulation includes banning weapons in common use for lawful purposes or denying people their rights without giving them a say in court.
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AnonymousOP10w
I especially don't think it includes something as tangential and moronic as putting Palantir surveillance in my 3d printer
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Anonymous#410w
Rn I’m not in like a headspace to get into a debate but I’m sure you have some pretty good arguments for your opinion man
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AnonymousOP10w
Fair enough you have a good one man
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Anonymous#410w
Ok. Cool. Good talk.
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Anonymous#110w
If you don't mind my asking, what makes you so averse to guns/gun rights anyhow?
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Anonymous#410w
I grew up with guns. I grew up with good teachers on proper gun safety from family, a brief stint in shooting sports, and Scouting.
I think there is such a thing as responsible gun ownership practiced by most gun owners.
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Anonymous#410w
My pissy mood has to do with 2A absolutists not getting that, sometimes, and with demonstrable evidence, people should in fact lose their rights to gun ownership because they have a proven tendency to be a threat to themselves and others.
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Anonymous#110w
I don't think it's at all absolutist to follow the SCOTUS decision about what the 2A means, and 3d printers as a means of getting guns to your hypothetical ne'er do well has proven to be a very slim minority of crime guns in reality
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Anonymous#110w
Where was this outrage when you could make a gun out of random sheet metal stamps from the hardware store?