Anonymous #1 7w

And that’s why fascism never died!

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Anonymous #1 7w

You obviously never studied sociology or philosophy

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Anonymous OP 7w

Ok bud the bit is up now its just annoying

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Anonymous #2 7w

Anti-violence is not even remotely close to defending racism. Nice try troll

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Anonymous #1 7w

Own that racist fraud

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Anonymous #2 7w

You have zero media literacy. You’re just impulsive

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Anonymous OP 7w

You say a lot of platitudes freshman philosophy major, but it doesn’t change the fact that you defended a racist

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Anonymous #2 7w

I did not in any way defend a racist. You’re totally making that up. All I did was condemn violence. Why is it so impossible for you to hold nuance?

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Anonymous OP 7w

You argued that violence against racists is the same thing as Republican violence and you think you can talk about nuance??? Lmfao

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Anonymous #1 7w

we have the highest incarceration rates per capita in the entire world that is higher than China and Russia. 1.9 million people are incarcerated and we also have the highest recidivism rates in the world. We also still use solitary confinement which the UN classifies as human torture. Not to mention sentencing disparities that lead to the unequal punishment against black people

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Anonymous #2 7w

either a troll or definitely some freshman philosophy or sociology major who doesnt understand nuance

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Anonymous #2 7w

That’s literally not what i argued. I said violence is not a viable means of governance

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Anonymous #1 7w

You like the prison system? You like that it is the modern version of slavery?

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Anonymous OP 7w

You sure? That seems to be what you said when you used the bullshit horseshoe theory lmfao

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Anonymous #1 7w

You are the actual racist here!

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Anonymous #2 7w

I didn’t use the horseshoe theory lmao I think binary partisanship is stupid

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Anonymous #2 7w

you don’t like what I’m actually saying so you’re trying to force me into a box that I actually never claimed. I dare you to actually listen to me.

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Anonymous OP 7w

I have and your points on violence…not good.

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Anonymous #1 7w

have you never heard of the exception clause of the 13th amendment?

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Anonymous #2 7w

Violence being universally bad is a bad position to hold? That tells me everything i need to know about you

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Anonymous OP 7w

Pacifist read and understand history challenge (impossible)

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Anonymous #1 7w

I studies computer science and information science. I just happen to be knowledgeable unlike you apparently

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Anonymous #2 7w

this is exactly how racism works by the way. You’re reacting to who you think I am rather than responding to who I actually

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Anonymous #1 7w

how can you claim to be anti-racist and simultaneously support the most racist institution in our country?

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Anonymous OP 7w

I’m actually reacting to your garbage take on violence but you haven’t shown a lot of intellectual ability so I don’t blame you for misunderstanding

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Anonymous #2 7w

exactly. you’re reacting to what you think I’m saying rather than trying to understand what I’m actually saying. thank you for that admission.

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Anonymous #2 7w

oh sure, just keep insulting me down voting me telling me I’m wrong but still failing to answer any of my rhetorical questions. I have plenty more rope to climb. Meanwhile, you have run completely out of argument and you’ve shown it multiple times give up and admit that you’re wrong. The US prison complex is the most racist institution in this country and you cannot be anti-racist and supported at the same time. that’s called cognitive dissonance.

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Anonymous OP 7w

*and support it

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Anonymous OP 7w

This is why I support sending rightoids to camps and not prison 👍

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Anonymous #2 7w

i’m not even right wing. I’m a full-blown fucking communist.

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Anonymous #2 7w

why is it so hard for you to hold multiple truths at the same time??

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Anonymous #2 7w

sending people to camps is what colonizers do diva you are a fucking colonizer

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Anonymous #2 7w

more and more cognitive dissonance do you ever give it a break?

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Anonymous OP 7w

Sorry would it have been better if I said Gulag? You can also convince me that roving gangs of revolutionary teenagers like what Mao had in the cultural revolution would be a good way to solve the rightoid problem.

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Anonymous #2 7w

MAO??? THE WAR CRIMINAL?? Okay buddy you just lost all credibility.

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Anonymous OP 7w

LMFAO and he calls himself a communist??? That’s hilarious

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Anonymous OP 7w

>talks about cognitive dissonance >is a self-proclaimed communist (inherently revolutionary ideology) >is also against violence Very funny

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Anonymous #2 7w

you have the same kind of thinking as a republican lol you are never going to be able to break free from what you claim to detest if you actively practice those things yourself

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Anonymous #2 7w

was that supposed to be an own? It’s like you don’t understand anything about how the world works lol

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Anonymous #2 7w

is it really that hard to say “damn the prison system is fucked we need to abolish that shit”???

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Anonymous OP 7w

>claims that I don’t understand the world >still thinks that violence is unequivocally bad Very funny

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Anonymous #2 7w

oh God, you’re so fucking brainwashed. It pisses me off.

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Anonymous #2 7w

also, why are you assuming my gender?

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Anonymous OP 7w

Because I’m used to men having such bad takes

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Anonymous #2 7w

you’ve clearly never seen actual violence if you think that violence is not unequivocally bad. tell that shit to all of the children dying overseas right now

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Anonymous #2 7w

Stop feeding the troll

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Anonymous #2 7w

so you’re sexist too? is that what I’m hearing?

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Anonymous #1 7w

That’s real, I do this shit when I’m bored and have nothing else better to do.

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Anonymous #1 7w

i’m not a troll. I’m being so fucking serious. You don’t have to keep feeding me. You can admit that you’re wrong and listen to me for once. That’s totally your choice.

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Anonymous #2 7w

you can’t end violence with more violence. that’s nonsensical. do you even use your brain?

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Anonymous OP 7w

Yes you can 👍

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Anonymous #2 7w

I bet you think the government is going to fucking save us

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Anonymous OP 7w

LMFAO OF COURSE YOURE AN ANARCHIST

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Anonymous #2 7w

if violence could end violence, why is there still violence?

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Anonymous #2 7w

do you think that violence is only physical? Do you not realize how violent this conversation has been? why do you think it’s been so unproductive? it’s because you entered it with violence

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Anonymous #2 7w

At least I’m not a neo liberal

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Anonymous OP 7w

Considering you defended a racist I think it’s deserved personally.

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Anonymous OP 7w

You’d be the one cutting down Mussolini huh

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Anonymous #1 7w

“Nooooo don’t go towards the Fuhrerbunker what if Hitler says sorry afterwards! We can make flower crowns together”

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Anonymous OP 7w

Neither am I ❤️

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Anonymous #2 7w

you think that I’m about reparations? lmao I’m about prevention. Upstream solutions not downstream patches

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Anonymous #2 7w

“guys he already realized he lost the war and failed to murder all the Jews maybe he needs to talk to a therapist”

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Anonymous #2 7w

you really have me pegged completely wrong and that’s entirely your fault because you went into this with assumptions rather than curiosity. there’s nothing I can do to control that. That’s totally on you.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Okay if Netanyahu falls into your hands right now what do you do

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Anonymous #2 7w

Then what are you?

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Anonymous #1 7w

Have a discussion with him???

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Anonymous OP 7w

Also a Communist, thankfully not the Anarchist (🤢🤮) kind though

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Anonymous OP 7w

LMFAO

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Anonymous #1 7w

and this is also bigger than figureheads. you think that you don’t have any responsibility in this either?

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Anonymous #1 7w

this is not just a governance issue. This is not just a class issue. This is a cultural issue.

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Anonymous OP 7w

You been watching too much Naruto bro🤣🤣

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Anonymous #2 7w

what kind of fucking communist believes in beating their fellow humans?

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Anonymous OP 7w

One who has actually read the fucking books 💀

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Anonymous OP 7w

Okay have a discussion with someone radicalized since childhood to hate palestinians. Have you ever even attempted having a discussion with a radicalized individual

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Anonymous #2 7w

oh, like what? Das Kapital? give me a fucking break

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Anonymous #1 7w

I don’t watch Naruto. But apparently you do.

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Anonymous #1 7w

I was someone who is radicalized as a child to hate Republicans and now look at me. You think I am one..

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Anonymous OP 7w

Your parents didn’t do a good enough job

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Anonymous OP 7w

Great troll bro but I gotta get up and wipe now ttyl

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Anonymous #1 7w

you just love making non-sequiturs and strawmen. Calm down.

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Anonymous #2 7w

I excommunicated my parents because they are capitalists.

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Anonymous #2 7w

you think they taught me this? No I had to learn this shit the hard way.

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Anonymous #2 7w

are you telling me your parents handed you all of your beliefs and you didn’t question them? cause that’s pretty fucking pathetic

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Anonymous OP 7w

You hate capitalism, yet you think the actions needed to dismantle it are bad lmfao

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Anonymous OP 7w

No lmfao I’m from the Deep South my parents are rightoids

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Anonymous #2 7w

this isn’t a debate you’re just straight up fucking wrong. I will say this one last time: the industrial prison complex is racist.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Okay I haven’t argued that point with you at all. I’m here because you’re wrong about violence.

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Anonymous #2 7w

No, I think you approach is wrong. I think that you’re understanding of the actions needed is skewed and you don’t actually know what we need.

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Anonymous OP 7w

You may be right there, but I know I know more than an anarchist

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Anonymous #2 7w

you think you know what capitalism needs in order to be dismantled. I strongly disagree. you are doing the exact same thing that holds up colonialism and patriarchy.

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Anonymous #2 7w

you don’t even know what I am. I’m not firmly anarchist I’m not firmly anything I’m a fucking human and I know what I am against and Four. I don’t fit in the fucking boxes as much as you try to push me into them. That was your first mistake.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Your first mistake was being wrong about violence, hope this helps

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Anonymous #2 7w

regardless of who may be right or wrong, it can be firmly concluded that you are a dick

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Anonymous #2 7w

and look where violence got you….

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Anonymous OP 7w

At least I don’t defend racists like you did 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous #2 7w

good thing I never defended a racist!

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Anonymous #2 7w

Pretty dickish behavior on your part

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Anonymous OP 7w

Yes you did

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Anonymous #2 7w

just because you think that doesn’t mean that’s actually what happened

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Anonymous #2 7w

I will say this one more time, and I will say it very clearly so you can understand: opposing identity-based violence is not even remotely close to defending racism. You have to be a special kind of stupid to misinterpret that in such a way.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Real fucking quiet huh. wanna talk about how you’ve been defending the industrial prison complex, a.k.a. modern slavery???

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Anonymous #2 7w

Black people are more likely to be incarcerated for the same crimes as white people. that’s the system you’ve been defending just by the way. There is nothing more racist than state sanctioned inequality against black people, and that’s exactly what you have been defending this entire time.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Sorry I was eating a late lunch with my fiancée, anyway, no I haven’t been lmfao

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Anonymous #2 7w

We’ve already talked about this rightoid 🤭

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Anonymous #2 7w

And then you had the nerve to call me racist! And now you’re completely silent and it’s DEAFENING.

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Anonymous OP 7w

You are racist and your takes on violence are wrong.

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Anonymous #2 7w

you have been calling me racist for opposing identity based violence. that makes you racist.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Lmfao nice try but you’re the one who defended a racist

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Anonymous #2 7w

and you’re still calling me a rightoid, even though you have established that you think I am an anarchist apparently? Pick a lane buddy.

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Anonymous OP 7w

Nah it’s funny

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Anonymous #2 7w

defending all life from violence means that racists get included too. If you don’t that’s called discrimination! are you not even a fucking liberal?

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Anonymous OP 7w

Discriminating against racists 👍

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Anonymous #2 7w

you can’t just keep saying nuh uh lol give me literally any reason reasoning

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Anonymous #2 7w

Nice try but saying the same thing twice doesn’t make it right

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Anonymous OP 7w

I wish you realized this, considering you’ve been repeating the same wrong point about violence

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Anonymous #2 7w

*makes you prejudiced. being progressive is a lot harder than just a virtue signaling. You have to actually stand by your values even when they’re inconvenient such as when they require you to have empathy for racists

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Anonymous OP 7w

Sounds like a bad type of progressive tbh.

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Anonymous #2 7w

I have been giving you so much reasoning over and over and over again from so many different angles and you keep shooting it down with “nuh uh”. You need to actually use your fucking brain for once.

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Anonymous #2 7w

A bad progressive is one who beats people up based on their beliefs!!!

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Anonymous OP 7w

*based progressive

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Anonymous #2 7w

just like you have been doing this entire conversation!! you are a bad progressive!

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Anonymous OP 7w

Okay I guess? I don’t really care what an anarchist who defends racists thinks.

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Anonymous #2 7w

OK, I guess we will just accept that Some shit smells really fragrant and some lava is actually really cold. I love dry water!

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Anonymous OP 7w

Having this much of a crash out over being wrong is really funny ngl. Keep defending racists I guess.

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Anonymous #2 7w

i’m not even an anarchist. you have not once asked me in earnest what I actually believe. you have done nothing but place labels on me. look where that has gotten you. This is just bickering because you refuse to see eye to eye with me.

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Anonymous #2 7w

please, for the love of fuck try being genuine for once

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Anonymous OP 7w

I don’t want to see eye-to-eye with someone who defends racists. Especially when they’re as wrong about violence as you.

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Anonymous #2 7w

are you fucking stupid?

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Anonymous OP 7w

No, but you are 🤭

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Anonymous OP 7w

It’s hard to be genuine with someone who equivocates all political violence tbh. Very difficult to get a point through a brick wall like yourself.

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Anonymous #2 7w

You haven’t even tried

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Anonymous #2 7w

try asking questions instead of making statements. it’ll get you a lot farther

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Anonymous OP 7w

No. That’s okay. I don’t really like talking to people who defend racists but you just won’t stop responding.

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Anonymous #2 7w

oh but wait you don’t actually care what I think you just wanna be right you wanna feel righteous about your hatred and anger and violence and you want to feel right in your impulsivity so you will do any level of mental gymnastics to make yourself feel that way. it’s disgusting

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Anonymous OP 7w

It’s not really mental gymnastics. In fact it takes a lot more of an acrobatics act to try and justify your bad takes about violence.

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Anonymous #2 7w

how can you be progressive and also violent at the same time? How does that work? layout the entire game plan for me. how are you going to use violence to fix inequality?

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Anonymous OP 7w

I would love to but sadly yikyak would ban me 😔

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Anonymous #2 7w

it takes a whole lot of fucking mental gymnastics to deny the harm of the industrial prison complex

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Anonymous OP 7w

Thankfully I didn’t do that. I’m just here cause you’re wrong about violence and you defended a racist.

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Anonymous #2 7w

all you need to do is “say damn that shit is racist. I should stop recommending prison as a solution of governance.”

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Anonymous #2 7w

What would it take for you to stop reacting to what you think I’m saying and respond to what I’m actually saying?

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Anonymous #2 7w

so you’re basically a Nazi then huh?

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Anonymous OP 7w

What would it take for you to read a history book and understand that you’re objectively wrong about violence?

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Anonymous #2 7w

you think you can just go around and kill people you disagree with that makes you the kind of person that you disagree with. How is this not making sense to you?

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Anonymous OP 7w

He did the horseshoe theory again 🤭

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Anonymous #2 7w

stop assuming my gender you fucking bigot

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Anonymous #2 7w

if your method of governance relies on violence that makes you fascist!! what are you not getting about that????

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Anonymous OP 7w

Wrong.

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Anonymous #2 7w

have you never read Kant or Deleuze??

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Anonymous #2 7w

you can’t just say “wrong”. you have to explain why. this is not fucking kindergarten

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Anonymous OP 7w

Yes. Have you ever read a history book? Preferably non-fiction but I know men like yourself have a hard time reading. If you could, you’d have better takes.

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Anonymous #2 7w

Institutional violence FAILS Kant’s test of universalizability

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Anonymous #2 7w

I’M NONBINARY YOU FUCKING BIGOT

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Anonymous OP 7w

Sure you are 😉

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Anonymous #2 7w

YOU ARE A BAD PROGRESSIVE ADMIT AND FUCKING FIX IT GOD I CANNOT KEEP DOING THIS BULLSHIT WITH YOUR HEADASS

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Anonymous #2 7w

I LITERALLY AM

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Anonymous OP 7w

I’d much rather be a bad progressive than a good one if being a good one involves agreeing with an idiot who lies about their gender, defends a racist, and is wrong about violence

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Anonymous #2 7w

Looks like the apple doesn’t fall far from the rightoid tree…

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Anonymous #2 7w

I bet you’re a lot more like your parents than you want to admit

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Anonymous #2 7w

you do the classic Republican shit where you pin labels on people no matter how hard they resist them that is called bigotry. You are a republican.

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Anonymous OP 7w

You’re the person who is so full of yourself that you think you’re the arbiter of what makes a good and bad progressive. Reading Kant doesn’t make you smart.

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