Anonymous #5 9w

So you think we shouldn’t be accepting all these immigrants because our country really isn’t that good ⁉️

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Anonymous OP 9w

this is a non sequitur

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Anonymous OP 9w

Step-by-step, can you walk me through your comprehension process to explain how you came to the conclusion that’s what I was saying?

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Anonymous #6 9w

So if the reason everyone is coming here is based on a lie why should that industry continue?

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Anonymous #6 9w

So yea my statement definitely does logically follow the argument. Nice try tho!

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Anonymous OP 9w

No, you asked why people wanted to come here. I answered the question: we present an image of ourselves internationally that living here is a lot better than it actually is. That is in no way a commentary on how beneficial the system of immigration actually is.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Last time I checked you think people coming to the US is bad, so why don't you tell them how much the US sucks to keep them away?

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Anonymous #5 9w

You say the reason everyone is coming here is based on a lie. Why should people be giving into a lie and coming here if like you said it’s false advertising. Wouldn’t there be other countries that don’t have any false advertising

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Anonymous #5 9w

So you are saying a system that is based on a lie is a good system and should continue

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Anonymous #7 9w

Woah where did you check that? I don’t think I said anywhere immigration sucks

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Anonymous OP 9w

So you’re arguing as if I said I was opposed to immigration? I think people should be able to move to whichever country they want for whatever reason they want. I’m sure there are countries that are more honest about the quality of life there, and if you’re really opposed to immigration, you should lead the charge on letting the international community know how America’s infrastructure is crumbling, poverty is rampant, and how the police commit human rights violations

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Anonymous OP 9w

Idk its pretty obvious that's the point you're trying to make

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Anonymous #7 9w

Eh not quite

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Anonymous #5 9w

I’m not opposed to immigration I’m opposed to mass immigration

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Anonymous OP 9w

Then you need to be arguing against America’s behavior overseas that they stabilizes countries to the point that people have to engage in mass exodus?

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Anonymous OP 9w

Whats the point you're trying to make then? Stop sugar coating it just lay your point out on the table.

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Anonymous #5 9w

I think you might be misunderstanding. I made a post about immigration and asking why does everyone want to come here if it sucks so much. You said that the reasoning is because of “false advertising” aka lying to people. So the immigration industry in America is thriving because like you said the people are being lied to about how good America is. So is a system that is based on lying to people a system that we should be keeping in place or is there another system not built on lies

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Anonymous #7 9w

I’ve made my point a few times here just read through my comments

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Anonymous OP 9w

People should just be honest. People should recognize there are other better places to immigrate because America's is capitalist of course. Immigration to the US is associated with thousands of dollars so the people involved in that industry have a reason to keep lying to people.

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Anonymous OP 9w

And US citizens need to stop the glaze about the United States and wake up to the fact that this country is actually fucking terrible and getting worse by the day if someone can undo decades of work in less than 6 months.

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Anonymous #7 9w

There ya go that’s my point! Now is that an industry that you think is something that we should keep around or do you think we need to readjust our immigration system and stop lying to people

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Anonymous OP 9w

That’s literally not the point. The point is that, hypothetically - IF America was more honest about what life is actually like you, immigration would drop significantly. That’s not gonna happen though because there’s too much money to be made on the selling of American exceptionalism

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Anonymous #5 9w

It's just another time capitalism is ruining the world for us. The idea of American Exceptionalism leeches into the cultural zeitgeist and people start to believe that it's actually the best country on earth despite not being first in literally anything.

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Anonymous #5 9w

And then nothing gets changed in the country to help people. Our country is currently sitting in the 90s basically as far as policy goes. We still don't have SNAP elections to kick this geriatric orange out of the fucking seat.

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Anonymous #5 9w

So what’s your point you are trying to argue

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Anonymous #7 9w

Literally what I’m trying to say

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Anonymous OP 9w

I’m not arguing anything. I’m answering your question.

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Anonymous #5 9w

No you are arguing that my point is wrong but your not providing any counter argument your just saying no your wrong and then go on to explain exactly what my point is saying

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Anonymous OP 9w

What are you even talking about lmao- I explained that the reason people want to come to America is because of false advertising. You asked if it would be ethical to stop lying to get people to come here. I said I didn’t care because people can move wherever they want for whatever reason they want

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Anonymous #5 9w

Right but that’s not the question so you aren’t answering my question your beating around the bush making moot points

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Anonymous OP 9w

No, there was an answer: I don’t care

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Anonymous #5 9w

Cool so thats called being afraid to answer the question

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Anonymous OP 9w

No, I think it’s called not caring lol. I don’t mind if they do or don’t continue doing what they’re doing. Seems like you do though.

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Anonymous #5 9w

Yes, that’s only hard for you to imagine because you’re in immigrants’ business instead of minding your own-

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Anonymous #5 9w

Yea and you don’t care because you know I got you trapped in a corner

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Anonymous #5 9w

You were all gung ho earlier

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Anonymous OP 9w

No, I don’t care because I’m not obsessed with who comes to America and why they choose to

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Anonymous OP 9w

I literally ate you alive just now you need to chill out.

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Anonymous #7 9w

No you didn’t 😭

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Anonymous #7 9w

You guys got presented with a point you are scared to answer because it’s either you condone a system built on a lie or you admit there’s an immigration problem so you guys are now running away to different points or claiming not to care anymore

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Anonymous OP 9w

“An immigration problem” ??? What lmao

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Anonymous #5 9w

Yes an immigration problem that’s what this entire fucking thread is about nitwit

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Anonymous OP 9w

Lmfao did Fox News tell you that

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Anonymous #5 9w

No I don’t watch Fox News it’s classified under entertainment not news

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Anonymous OP 9w

So where did you get this ridiculous idea from😩

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Anonymous #5 9w

Read my posts in this comment section!! ^^

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Anonymous OP 9w

I did, and there was nothing to indicate that there’s an immigration problem

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Anonymous #5 9w

The whole system built on a series of lies thing

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Anonymous OP 9w

And?

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Anonymous #5 9w

Now this is a yes or no question: is it ethical for a system to stay in place even though it is built on lies

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Anonymous OP 9w

Yeah it is pretty unethical that America lies about how good it is

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Anonymous #5 9w

So then our current immigration system is unethical and should obviously be reorganized

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Anonymous OP 9w

So I’m still confused over what the “immigration” problem is? The lie about American exceptionalism isn’t the cause of the mass immigration you said you were opposed to - us meddling in foreign affairs is the cause of that.

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Anonymous #5 9w

No lying about how coming to America will almost guarantee success is definitely causing people to want to move here more over let’s say another country with similar cultural values and backgrounds. Now onto us meddling in foreign affairs. Again do you think America would be the best place for families to try and restart their life after America violently uprooted their original way of living.

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Anonymous OP 9w

Notice how you’re shifting the blame onto the victim😭 You’re a very scary guy

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Anonymous #5 9w

I’ve said it a few times already but I’ll say it again because I can understand you are having some trouble comprehending. The immigration problem is the fact that it’s built on a lie

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Anonymous #5 9w

I’m not blaming the victim 😭

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Anonymous OP 9w

No, the immigration problem is the fact that America can’t keep their hands out of foreign countries, and then have the gall to be surprised that people will leave their countries after their government gets stabilized

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Anonymous #5 9w

Destabilized*

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Anonymous #5 9w

It’s not their fault they are falling for the lies and corruption but they are. That’s no victim blaming. It would be victim blaming if I were to say they are so dumb and shouldn’t believe it to begin with. I’m saying we need to fix the lying- not fix the people. Crazy how you just immediately jumped to that

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Anonymous #5 9w

Ok once again another question you are refusing to answer. Is America the best country for someone to move to and try and restart their life after America just violently uprooted their original way of life

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Anonymous OP 9w

And I already said that it’s unethical for America to lie and cover up the negative aspects of living here, but what’s more unethical is the imperialism that they do

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Anonymous #5 9w

Yup I agree but that’s called whataboutism and is a fallacy so

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Anonymous OP 9w

The irony here is that what you’re doing is actually the whataboutism. The cause of the “immigration issue” is America’s foreign policy. You’re saying “but what about the part where they think coming to America is better?” like what😭

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Anonymous #5 9w

Ohhhhh ok I see now. You clearly are having trouble understanding what this post is about.

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Anonymous #5 9w

I highly encourage you to take some time to cool off and maybe read through my posts a little slower because you’ve had a lot of problems in this thread with not really being able to comprehend the points being made which is totally fine it’s a complicated matter!

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Anonymous OP 9w

you literally have no points, you’ve just been making non sequiturs and declaring obviously false things as fact.

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Anonymous #6 9w

I think you got the people in this thread mixed up!

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Anonymous OP 9w

no i’m referring to you. follow your leader, nazi pos

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Anonymous #6 9w

Lololol

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