Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 1w

Like yeah borders exist for a reason so customs enforcement is necessary but people being nabbed by ice agents at work or pulled out of their homes is unnecessary

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 1w

Well a lot of Americans are unhappy that their tax dollars go to supporting these immigrant families. At some point I think there begins a strain on the system which will make it break.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Immigrants pay into the system without getting any of the benefits, you are just straight up wrong

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Anonymous OP 1w

Immigrants contribute quite a bit in taxes considering how little benefits they receive from the government tho. They’re not eligible for SNAP, social security, Medicaid and loads more programs. What strain could they be putting on, that outweighs the taxes they pay?

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Anonymous OP 1w

They pay more taxes than what they receive in benefits

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Anonymous shrimp_fried_rice 1w

Yes, it’s no question that even illegal immigrants contribute a lot. However, when you take the American family as individuals, they pay taxes that go to support the immigrants which they wouldn’t otherwise have to pay. As far as American history goes, American families have valued programs that cannot be abused by people that aren’t their American brothers and sisters. The government doesn’t lower taxes for the average taxpayer just because there are more people to pay taxes (illegal or not)

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

What punishment would you give the undocumented immigrants?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Lmao nothing. Why punish people for a victimless crime. This obsession with “punishing” undocumented immigrants is fucking psychotic and indicative of fatherlessness

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m still confused on what exactly is straining on taxes about immigrants, considering they pay for programs they don’t qualify for through their own taxes, and why that necessitates a mass deportation project of the current size and scale it’s at

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Anonymous OP 1w

If they commit an ACTUAL violent crime, then okay sure deport them. But otherwise who in their right mind actually gives a shit

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Anonymous OP 1w

Immigrants also pay taxes. They pay for themselves to receive benefits. Benefits that, by the way, cost us like nothing on the scale we spend on as a country. To whatever extent they even really exist.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Well there’s the “rule of law” argument. If people don’t follow a law and they’re not punished, then laws become meaningless and meant to be broken. I don’t think it’s a victimless crime. It affects the American people. For example. Theres a capacity problem. Immigrants would take spaces in schools, ER rooms, housing, and social services. And there’s a security issue. People who enter illegally also bypass background checks. Which allows for dangerous people who might have ill intent in

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Anonymous OP 1w

You have broken the law and gotten away with it. Don’t lie, it’s unbecoming. Is the law now meaningless?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Also no it’s objectively a victimless crime. By all metrics undocumented immigration is good for our economy

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

I have? When?

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Anonymous OP 1w

🙄

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Anonymous OP 1w

Either you have, or you’re zero fun.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

I just listed way that makes it not a victimless crime.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Yeah dude I don’t think an immigrant being in an American hospital means they’re victimizing me.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I think that’s stupid actually

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Ok fine. And the other ways that I listed?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Immigrants don’t receive federal taxes and if you don’t like the taxes in your state then advocate against them

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Anonymous OP 1w

no they don’t, immigrants don’t receive federal funds, they aren’t eligible for federal programs, you’re a fucking lying loser

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Anonymous OP 1w

Btw 40-50% of “illegals” simply overstayed a visa which is a civil offense, literally the same severity as going 45 in a 35, but yrs rule of law is being undermined 🤦‍♂️ if you’re really concerned about “capacity” issues, perhaps blame the corporate subsidies given by the government rather than the comparatively minuscule amount of state taxes that go to immigrant programs and also federal programs don’t let undocumented immigrants apply

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Anonymous OP 1w

All of them follow the same logic. I don’t feel victimized if an undocumented immigrant goes to school, or receives public services. After all, they PAY TAXES. So they are ALREADY PAYING FOR THOSE SERVICES. You want to live in a world where this caste of people pays for these services but doesn’t get to use them, which is fucked up.

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Anonymous #6 1w

Here are the ways that illegal immigrants cause harm on the country 1) they tarnish our rule of law. If there’s no punishment for violating a law, then law begin to become meaningless. 2) It inflicts a capacity problem on us. Schools lose spaces for America children, ER rooms get filled and citizens may be turned away, housing is taken, social services siphoned… 3)Then there’s security. People who enter illegally also bypass background checks, allowing dangerous people with ill intent in.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Don't wanna hear shit about the rule of law while Trump is president 🤣

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Anonymous OP 1w

again, upwards 50% of undocumented immigrants haven’t broken a single law, it isn’t against the law to overstay your visa, it’s a civil offense, it’s a small fine and again, the “capacity” issue is because of government spending on military and government subsidies, nothing to do with immigrants, just saying the same refuted points over and over isn’t gonna change anyone’s mind dumbass

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Anonymous OP 1w

Also, complaining about rule of law while not complaining that our president is a convicted felon is a load of bullshit

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

For every illegal immigrant that takes up schooling of service resources, it diverts those resources from reaching Americans first. The taxes they pay go to the federal government but never to the local government which puts enormous strain on the local communities. It costs more for schools, hospitals, puts more pressure on police, fire, and housing.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I’m not a Trump supporter

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Anonymous OP 1w

Sounds like the solution is easy. Make them legal so they can pay taxes.

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Anonymous #6 1w

So then you’re saying you’d support deporting the other 50% that did cross the border with no visa illegally?

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Anonymous OP 1w

no, because I also don’t think it should be a crime, I would rather give them all naturalization than deport them

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Absolutely agree. Give them a background check and the citizenship fee and the language and history test and boom, let’s get them in! 👍

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Anonymous OP 1w

Why charge them?

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Anonymous OP 1w

do you think undocumented immigrants don’t pay taxes? and also, perhaps local governments then need to tax the wealthy?

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Anonymous #6 1w

The wealthy have nothing to do with this. I know that immigrants do pay taxes but because the federal government knows that benefits don’t apply to them, they don’t increase funding to local federally funded systems like education and hospitals. Therefore, the strain shows up on the local governments instead of the country as a whole. And I’m all about my community. That’s who I care about first.

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Anonymous OP 1w

“Woah woah woah leave the wealthy outta this!” Lmao

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Because they’re here illegally. I think we should give them citizenship after deporting them, if they can earn it. Coming to this country is a privilege. We get to decide who we let in. I’m sure you’d agree that we’d want the smartest, safest, most contributing immigrants into our country and not the ones that will cause harm, right?

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Anonymous OP 1w

I want them here and you out

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

You’re setting up a straw man.

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Anonymous #4 1w

That’s cool bro.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I kinda just want anyone who will come here. Idrc if they’re supa smart or whatever. They’re bound to be smarter than most Americans if they made it here illegally. That’s not, like, easy.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Are you serious? You don’t care if they pose a security threat?

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Anonymous OP 1w

why do they need a language and/or history test? The U.S. doesn’t even have an official language…

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Anonymous OP 1w

Alls I’m saying is the world is in an obvious and very real burgeoning population crisis. We had a steady stream of good, honest people coming to this country who are ready and willing to have a bunch of kids, and we squandered it for racism. From a state building perspective, pretty dumb.

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Anonymous OP 1w

undocumented immigrants commit less crime per capita than U.S. citizens, they are safer statistically than you or I assuming you’re a citizen

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Anonymous #6 1w

Well every country has a history test. And I believe that our official language is English considering that percentage wise it’s the most spoken language in the country. If they really want to become American, I think they should have to show some effort to actually become American. That starts with knowing our history and our language.

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Anonymous OP 1w

No not even remotely. Undocumented Immigrants are one of the groups prone to criminality the LEAST. Way less than the average American. You know what’s a security threat? The like, multiple foreign assets currently occupying positions in the federal government.

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Anonymous OP 1w

No the U.S. has no official language, saying it’s English is factually wrong, Spanish and English and even Creole all have the same level of recognition And considering most Americans are functionally illiterate, I doubt they know the history either, seems unfair to force immigrants to know something that citizens don’t even know

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Anonymous #6 1w

Where’d you get your stats for that? Because if you’re right, then I need to know. I find that very hard to believe. And besides, I don’t think that matters. I mean, if we didn’t let any immigrants in, we’d have 0 immigrant committed crimes 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous OP 1w

If we let 0 immigrants in we’d also have a shrinking if not collapsing economy here’s the source, straight from a government website https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

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Anonymous #6 1w

So let me get this straight. Are you trying to say that English is not the highest percentage spoken language in the US? The US literacy rate is 99%. And even if America somehow doesn’t know their own history, that doesn’t change the fact that immigrants should want to be American and part of being American (just part) is knowing the history.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I’m not saying we *should* have 0 immigrants. I just want only the ones that come legally.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I think it’s pretty clear they were saying English isn’t americas *official language*. Which, while historically true, changed in march of last year. Although that’s bullshit and won’t last past his presidency.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Why is that bullshit? It’s our country’s most spoken language.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Official language is a government-recognized status, it’s not based on what’s spoken Functional illiteracy means reading below a 5th grade level and that applies to 1 in 5 U.S. adults (21%, or 40-45 million people) And the history thing seems nitpicky, I don’t think you need to know American history well enough to pass a test to contribute to American society positively

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Anonymous OP 1w

perhaps there wouldn’t be so many undocumented immigrants if immigration courts weren’t backlogged for years and the citizenship process didn’t reliably take a decade

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Anonymous OP 1w

Our country doesn’t need an official language.

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Anonymous OP 1w

That’s silly.

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Anonymous #6 1w

A government recognized status that has recently been changed. English is now our country’s official language. Also, the language test for immigration is only testing legal literacy levels. It’s not asking people to be Shakespeare

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Anonymous OP 1w

I mean, till the next election.

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Anonymous OP 1w

It was an executive order it will just be reversed immediately upon a Democrat taking office.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I actually agree with you on this. We need a better system in place to speed things up.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

It does. So that people properly assimilate into our culture. A worker that doesn’t speak English doesn’t contribute as much as one that *does* speak English.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

What benefit would it give the American people to get rid of our official language?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Dude our most populated parts of our country used to be Mexico. Like 20 percent of people here speak Spanish. You could exclusively speak Spanish and still “assimilate into American culture”.

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Anonymous OP 1w

You just want people to assimilate into *white* culture.

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Anonymous OP 1w

executive orders aren’t law bro

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

😑. That’s a lazy argument. I’m Hispanic

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Anonymous OP 1w

A Hispanic racist? Color me fuckin shocked.

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Anonymous OP 1w

there are Spanish-speaking communities all over the U.S., do those not count as American culture?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

20%. 80% don’t. You can absolutely be bilingual. That’d actually put you ahead of most people. But this is America. A huge chunk of that 20% also speak English. So it’s not an issue.

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Anonymous OP 1w

20 percent is like 60 million people. That’s more people than some entire nations.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

What have I said that’s racist?

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Anonymous #6 1w

They absolutely do. But a huge chunk of those communities also speak English. So it’s not an issue.

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Anonymous OP 1w

yes, 1 in 5 people speak Spanish, walk into a restaraunt, statistically multiple in there speak Spanish This doesn’t even mention how Spanish speakers tend to live together in communities where they all speak Spanish to each other Many countries have multiple languages, it’s not an issue for them, why would it be for us?

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Anonymous OP 1w

Right but huge parts of America were originally Spanish speaking.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

You referenced 20% of the part of the country that used to be Mexico. Not the entire US population. And again, a huge chunk of that 20% even at the nationwide level, also speaks English. So it’s not a problem.

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Anonymous OP 1w

also telling Mexicans living on land that was formerly Mexico to give up their heritage and language is just modern colonialism

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Anonymous #6 1w

Those countries don’t allow millions upon millions of undocumented immigrants into their countries.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

They’re not now. I’m concerned with the present America.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Okay my argument isn’t that so many people speak Spanish that it’s somehow a problem for the country. You frame everything so weird. I’m saying Spanish is so widely spoken, and in some places is the original language of the people who live there before the land belonged to America. Seeing as it’s so widely spoken, and is literally native to our most populated areas, I think having a single language as our nations “official language” is kinda dumb.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Literally a lot of Europe did for decades, Spain still does The U.S. has some of the strictest immigration policies already globally

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Anonymous #6 1w

The US won a war against Mexico and annexed Texas. The people there are now under a new flag with new rules and new language. For their benefit, I would absolutely think they’d learn the language to assimilate if they didn’t want to leave. And a lot of them did, and were welcomed for it.

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Anonymous OP 1w

This is such bullshit soyjack Roman Empire shit

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Anonymous OP 1w

Okay so you’re pro-colonialism and pro-imperialism? If hypothetically China successfully invaded the U.S. in the future, would you fly the Chinese flag happily and speak Chinese?

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Anonymous OP 1w

“Erm they lost a war and now they’re under OUR flag, and baby, things are gonna be a changing-“ Like stfu what the hell are you talking about. We got by fine for hundreds of years without an official language, many people here don’t speak English and that’s fine. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

I think the benefits outweigh the bad parts. Take a standardized measurement system for example. If one scientist used his foot to measure things and another used meters we wouldn’t have gotten to the moon. Standardization is important and language is as crucial as metrics.

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Anonymous OP 1w

“Actually we have to do it because like scientists use standardized units to measure things and stuff-“ What are you talking about. That’s stupid. We got by fine for hundreds of years without one. We gain NOTHING from making English our official language but the feeling of alienating the people who don’t speak it. It’s soy.

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Anonymous OP 1w

not everyone is building rockets dude lol, Americans that don’t speak English don’t hurt our country

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Anonymous #6 1w

I care about the present. I don’t support colonial conquest from the US right now or in the future. I can’t change what happened in the past. I want what’s best for people. And living in a country that you don’t speak the language of is very challenging and not what was best for those people. So, most of them learned English. I would die, defending my country from China. So no.

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Anonymous OP 1w

wtf are you even saying

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

The official language thing is not my main concern. It’s the flooding of illegal immigration in our country.

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Anonymous OP 1w

As we’ve already established illegal immigration isn’t harmful.

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Anonymous OP 1w

They commit less crime, and are good for our economy. The solution to this “problem” is just to make them all citizens.

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Anonymous OP 1w

So you want people to submit to the flag of their conqueror but you wouldn’t do the same? Doesn’t that make you a hypocrite?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Look, I can tell you’re getting emotional. And I don’t think you really payed attention to what I said. But if you don’t think that standardization is important then you don’t think that a prosperous society with quality of life as its main goal is important.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I made an entire argument against your point it isnt my fault you ignored it.

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Anonymous #6 1w

I don’t think k they help it as much as they should though. JFK once said ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Jesus you’re such a liberal dude.

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Anonymous OP 1w

language standardization has nothing to do with quality of life also, we literally use a system for measurement that no one else uses so this whole argument is silly, if we care about standardization shouldn’t we use the metric system?

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Anonymous #6 1w

Our system was better than Mexico’s and still is today. Quality of life in that region improved greatly after the war.

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Anonymous OP 1w

And we didn’t need to make English our official language to do it.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

I payed attention. It just wasn’t a good one. No offense.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Then why don’t you make a case against it.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Or even just repeat it back to me.

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Anonymous #6 1w

It absolutely dos have everything to do with quality of life. Let’s say you go downtown to buy food. The vendor doesn’t speak your language and gets frustrated that you can’t understand them. That’s friction that believe it or not is considered in quality of life. And I absolutely think we should adopt the metric system. Imperial is stupid.

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Anonymous OP 1w

usually war hurts quality of life bc like people die?? are you fucking stupid?

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Anonymous OP 1w

if your country doesn’t do shit for you what’s the point of a country in the first place?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

I have rebuked every comment you have made.

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Anonymous OP 1w

I just want to point out to everyone that this guy said “the language isn’t the main point, the main problem is the flood of immigrants” and then when I made an argument against that he just ignored it and pivoted back to the official language thing.

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Anonymous #6 1w

Yeah that region isn’t exactly war torn at the moment. Also, just look at the difference in quality of life in Mexico vs the US today. It’s proof that our system is better.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Literally look at this shit.

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Anonymous OP 1w

It’s proof that exploiting the global south is profitable*

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

he has no arguments, he hasn’t thought anything out clearly, he’s arguing for the sake of disagreement

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Anonymous #6 1w

I’m literally pointing out where you ignore my arguments by screenshotting it and presenting it to you.

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Anonymous #6 1w

There you are in the first message, pivoting off of the language bit and onto immigration. There I am making my argument. Then there you are, ignoring it and continuing to talk about the official language thing.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

I looked back and did see a comment that I missed from you. It’s hard when you write your replies in so many different comments. There are levels the your economy argument. They hurt our economy because housing costs go up, they strain the local economies because local govs bear the costs of schooling and hospitals and infrastructure. Also, GDP does not equal quality of living.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Show me even a single study that shows illegal immigration has a negative economic effect.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Do you really think undocumented immigrants are buying houses en masse? They’re poor people fleeing cartel violence in El Salvador or something, they’re not buying single family homes Blame Blackrock, not immigrants, the ones who are, idk, actually buying homes en masse to sell them for a profit?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

https://www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers-2023

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Anonymous #6 1w

It definitely adds up. And I’m not a fan of Black Rock at all

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Anonymous OP 1w

Fair US is a nonprofit that opposes all immigration, not exactly a non-biased source

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Anonymous OP 1w

That report counts the education of naturalized US citizens as a “cost of illegal immigration”.

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Anonymous OP 1w

They are considered a white supremacist hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center The fact you have to cite hate groups to prove your point makes it seem like your point sucks

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Anonymous OP 1w

It literally counts United States citizens going to school as a cost.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

it’s a white supremacist hate group as classified by the southern poverty law center btw

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Anonymous #6 1w

Didn’t know that, makes perfect sense.

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Anonymous #6 1w

Did you read the content and look at their stats? They don’t oppose all immigration. Sure their opinions may be biased but the stats are not. The stats are gathered from gov agencies.

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Anonymous OP 1w

Their stats actually are biased as I’ve already illustrated. And that’s just ONE way they skew the data

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Anonymous OP 1w

They also assume the undocumented immigrants consume the same amount of healthcare as native born citizens, which they don’t.

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Anonymous OP 1w

They’re classified as white supremacist hate group, they would want YOU out of the country

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Their stats come from the government not themselves. Also, just because someone says they’re something doesn’t mean they are. You could say I’m racist, but Im not. They’re not a white supremacist group

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Believe it or not, going to school costs the federal and local government money

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Anonymous OP 1w

Yeah but I trust the southern poverty law center is the thing

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Anonymous #6 1w

What’s *your* proof of that?

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Anonymous OP 1w

And believe it or not, those children who are naturalized citizens pay that cost back when they become adults and pay taxes. Not to mention the taxes undocumented immigrants already pay

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Lmao. The southern poverty law center is a non profit biased org. If FAIR means nothing to you then why should the Southern poverty law center?

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Anonymous OP 1w

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/federation-american-immigration-reform/

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Again, you don’t understand that those taxes go to the federal government and not to support the local governments.

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Anonymous OP 1w

FAIR doesn’t mean nothing because they’re a nonprofit, FAIR means nothing because they’re tied to a bunch of hitlerites

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Anonymous OP 1w

You deliberately don’t listen to what we say and then construct straw men. Whoever said FAIR was bad because it was a nonprofit? I said they skewed their data and number six said they are a white supremacist group.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

I could say similar things about SPL 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous OP 1w

Whatever I’m just gonna go to bed

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Anonymous OP 1w

Have fun being a real life soyjack.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

#6 did. You guys are both blasting comments, so I’m treating you both as one person.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Good night bro. For what it’s worth, I hope you stay safe out there. I won’t insult you or anything because I do believe you care about these people. I just care about my American brothers and sisters first. It doesn’t mean I don’t care about immigrants. Good luck out there 👍

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Anonymous OP 1w

Recognizing white supremacist organizations is the SPLC’s expertise, there is almost no organization in the U.S. better than them at that

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Anonymous #6 1w

I could say the same about FAIR and immigration policy

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Anonymous OP 1w

well you could, but it’d also make you a white supremacist extremist since that’s what FAIR is

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Anonymous #6 1w

Except you can’t because I’m not a white supremacist and I’m not even white. I want what’s best for *Americans*. I could just randomly claim that SPL is Marxist and supports black supremacy (like you’re randomly claiming that FAIR is white supremacist) and that you’re a Marxist and black supremacist. 🤷‍♂️

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Anonymous OP 1w

Well I would consider myself a Marxist politically Plus, you could claim they’re those things but I would love to see the evidence, I could give you some of the evidence I have of FAIR being a white supremacist hate group

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Anonymous OP 1w

FAIR: - Holds anti-Latino and anti-Catholic attitudes - Accepted $1.2 million from a racist foundation, the Pioneer fund - Hired key officials who also joined white supremacist groups - Have had board members who regularly write for hate publications - Promoted racist conspiracy theories - Its founder, John Tanton, said once, in 1982, “As whites see their power and control over their lives declining, will they simply go quiet into the night? Or will there be an explosion…”

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Anonymous OP 1w

Continuing… - Former press secretary Joe Gomez filed a complaint in 2018 with the Washington D.C. Office of Human Rights alleging racist, xenophobic, and ableist harassment at FAIR - FAIR claimed (wrongly, so they lied) that the officer dismissed the complaint because it had no merit - The office only dismissed the case once a settlement was reached

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Anonymous #6 1w

That’s great evidence actually. Thanks for that and fuck them 😂. I won’t argue with you on that but I have other sources for the same argument that I’ll share in the morning 👍. Goodnight

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Anonymous #4 1w

Honestly asking, how are they paying taxes with no documentation?! Who’s taxing them if we don’t know their names in the system?

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Anonymous #6 1w

This was actually happening though with Biden, I’m pretty sure Trump cut it off. The illegal people were allowed to come in and go stay in fully funded housing or hotels for free. They received money on cards for food and survival. Surely you understand that the American people pay for that, it is not a free gift. Someone paid for it.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 1w

Mushy how do they pay taxes with no documentation? No valid identification?

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Anonymous #8 1w

Have you ever bought something at the store?

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Anonymous OP 6d

You can’t want immigrants to pay taxes then not let them access the services their taxes paid for.

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Anonymous #4 6d

No offense but that’s really not even comparable to paying taxes.

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Anonymous #9 6d

I don’t want them to pay taxes. I want them to leave and come back in the legal way and actually become a tax paying citizen.

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Anonymous OP 6d

I’d like that too but sometimes 5 years is a little too long to wait for a visa when your being hunted down because cartel wants your 300 square foot plot of land to make a meth lab

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Anonymous #7 6d

What there should be is a quicker and more efficient visa process so people can come right over and not have to worry about getting paid under the table

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