US Politics on Sidechat | If the founding fathers really had the best interest of the American ppl in mind then they didn’t do a very good job and should really have used their foresight upon what’s going on right as we speak to make a system robust enough to ward off exploitation

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If the founding fathers really had the best interest of the American ppl in mind then they didn’t do a very good job and should really have used their foresight upon what’s going on right as we speak to make a system robust enough to ward off exploitation

Anonymous 1d

It’s just funny cuz if you think about it, in order for that to actually have come to fruition it would have immediately resulted in an end to slavery on the spot because it will have required seeing all humans as humans and granting those humans rights, but nope!

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Anonymous 1d

The simple fact is that the Founding Fathers were already the colonial elite before the Revolution. Their goal was NOT to fundamentally change the way society worked in the colonies, but to have the capacity to govern for themselves. They were businessmen, ranking military officers, lawyers, etc. James Madison talked about protecting the “opulent minority” from the masses. It was a bourgeois revolution from the start.

Anonymous 1d

Idk if they could even conceive highways let alone ai data centers

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cheese_of_the_world_unite 1d

And yet, Thomas Paine was both an American and French revolutionary.

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cheese_of_the_world_unite 1d

Exactly my point, and thank you because that is in better words than I had put it ‼️

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#3 1d

Thomas Paine was the GOAT, any shit I talk about the Founding Fathers simply does not apply to him. His swag was so different, his smoke was so tough, that when he died nobody showed up to his funeral. Because after the Revolution, he spent his days pissing off the very same elite he supported in throwing off British occupation. Paine was FAR ahead of his time, and definitely the best of them.

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#3 1d

The French Revolution was also a bourgeois revolution though. In the 1700s, that was still a huge step forward. Both the American and French Revolutions were moments of historic progress, of bourgeois liberalism overthrowing monarchic feudalism. That’s an important step, but bourgeois liberalism still has its inherent flaws and is not the final step to full-on mass liberation.

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cheese_of_the_world_unite 1d

The word “Bourgeoisie” comes from the French Revolution. It refers to the low-born, but high-achieving class of people that led the French Revolution. People like Robespierre, who was a member of the 3rd Estate, no doubt, but the upper-crust of that estate. The lawyers, the doctors, the printing press owners, etc. the people who were not born into noble houses, but had achieved a class status that could almost rival the nobility. The bourgeoisie threw off the nobility, a bourgeois revolution.