Anonymous #3 2d

she’s* it’s early and I’m tired lol

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Anonymous landtrust 2d

I can see why someone would be for or against individualism or collectivism, but what’s wrong with individual self-expression?

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Anonymous #3 2d

Individual self expression that violates social norms divides society

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Anonymous landtrust 2d

I think we have bigger problems to worry about than what someone wears or what tattoos/piercings someone has tbh. It can be more nuanced than just strict individualism or strict collectivism

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That’s fairer than just disliking them because they differ from the norm

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Anonymous #3 2d

You’re right, I’m just saying the way you present yourself can be a social taboo and therefore is against collectivism

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Anonymous landtrust 2d

It can be but that doesn’t mean it should be, and the best way we can do work towards that is being accepting of people’s appearances, not just telling people to conform

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Anonymous #3 2d

Well that’s not working it’s keeping more division. We should hold people to standards

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Anonymous landtrust 2d

Just because it’s not working overnight it doesn’t mean it isn’t working at all and we should just throw it out. For example, 30 years ago, it would’ve been difficult to find a white collar job if you had visible tattoos; nowadays many employers (barring more conservative ones) wouldn’t think twice about most of them as long as they’re not offensive and aren’t face/hand tattoos. That happened because we became collectively became more accepting of tattoos, and that starts at an individual level

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Anonymous landtrust 2d

Plus, who, according to you, gets to set those standards?

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Anonymous #3 2d

250 years of individualism and the problem doesn’t get solved

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Anonymous landtrust 2d

You’re missing my point if you think I’m arguing for strict individualism

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Anonymous #3 2d

Caucasian males get to set those standards. So everyone else who isn’t white or a man are seen as an enemy and/or someone needing to be controlled. They’re convinced God put them in order of the Earth or something

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Anonymous #3 2d

Well all I’ve done is argue against it so what’s the problem

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Anonymous landtrust 2d

Guys why are we arguing

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Anonymous #5 2d

Good question

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