Anonymous #1 1w

i want you to just. really quickly read back the sentence “drains on society reproducing like bunnies for state cash” and ask yourself if that sounds remotely logical considering how much money it takes to raise a kid in this country

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Anonymous OP 1w

Doesn’t stop welfare recipients from having more kids than average

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Anonymous #1 1w

Got a source for that statistic?

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Anonymous #1 1w

Oh my god wait #1. I just found something. I think I know what’s going on here. Do you mind if I walk you through my research I just did? Feel free to dispute me at any time

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Anonymous #1 1w

So, I actually don’t have a source for that statistic off the top of my head. So I went to find one. “Welfare” is non-specific and can refer to a few different things. I started with TANF - just pure cash payments from the government. I found this graph, pulling from the data from the Census Office’s 2023 Survey of Income and Program Participation. It. Is. FASCINATING

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Anonymous OP 1w

First off - TANF is “Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.” So, by definition, TANF recipients ARE gonna have more kids than the average person - because it’s for FAMILIES. That’s not proof of them HAVING more kids - it’s proof that you need to have kids or be pregnant to even QUALIFY for TANF. Data indicates 75% of TANF recipients have 1-2 kids - just about perfectly in line with the national average (20-27% of american families have 3 or more kids according to Gallup polling).

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Anonymous #1 1w

But look at this part. Specifically the “four or more people in household” part. On first glance - that DOES look like they have more kids. But that’s not what the data is saying.

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Anonymous OP 1w

“Four or more PEOPLE in household.” People. NOT family members. I worked a part time job as a leasing agent at my apartment complex a year ago. Rent was so expensive I was renting INDIVIDUAL ROOMS to families of 4 (ew, gross, still hate it). The other rooms in the apartment went to different leasors.

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Anonymous #1 1w

The data doesn’t say TANF recipients have bigger families - they’re in line with the average. It says they’re more likely to have ROOMMATES. Because if you’re poor enough to qualify for TANF, you probably can’t afford a place of your own. And that makes PERFECT logical sense.

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Anonymous #1 1w

(floor is yours to dispute/rebut)

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Anonymous OP 1w

You just mag dumped them with logic I’m pretty sure they’re dead

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Anonymous OP 1w

Holy shit bro that was a fuckin nuclear bomb of statistics

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Anonymous OP 1w

I’m gonna be so honest, you absolutely got em but they’re not reading any of that.

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Anonymous #4 1w

even funnier when you realize i’ve been banned for the past 48 hours and OP *really did* have the floor to dispute. literally couldn’t have done shit to argue back either. but they didn’t even try

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Anonymous OP 1w

Don’t need to bother. This is the equivalent of telling someone who was attacked by an immigrant that it’s statistically less likely so you just need to grin and bear it and not become biased towards them. Whereas I know the amount of immigrant poors I see daily since I interact with the world but I’m sure you’d deny those numbers.

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