Anonymous #1 4d

I’d like to see the methodology if you don’t mind

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4d

What is your source?

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4d

The source is at the bottom, you can read the methodology there. Pew research is generally considered reliable.

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Anonymous #1 4d

The issue isn’t the reliability of pew, it’s the fact that this is a survey relying on people telling the truth, and I’ve known many conservatives who lie about this. That said, an analysis of the US counties with the most increases in snap benefits since 2010 shows that the largest increases are in communities that primarily voted for trump.

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Anonymous shazam 4d

It might not be true? Idk I was pretty confident, and there’s still data that backs up this claim. I am now tepidly skeptical of my own claim tho. The issue is, I frankly just don’t trust conservatives to self report on using government assistance. And when you look at where government assistance seems to increase the most over the last 15 years, it’s in almost exclusively communities that primarily voted for Trump.

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4d

I get that, so take it from me. There are still some areas that could be looked into, like how most people below the poverty line don’t vote at all, also there’s the issue of availability of snap, places with more republicans may not be as willing to use it hand out snap or make it more difficult. There’s also survey sample size. So while it is possible that you are right, what the current research shows is that more people below the poverty line are blue

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4d

Using a correlation to imply causation is even more problematic imo. Its entirely possible (and I think likely) that a different variable accounts for both increases in snap benefits and votes for Trump in a given county. Not to mention that only measuring increases depends on the cohort remaining the same.

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Anonymous shazam 4d

Idk maybe. I’ll have to look into it more. But it is deeply suspicious that the highest increases in snap usage over the last 15 years are 4 out of 5 times a conservative county. I’m still pretty convinced that self reported data is skewed. But I will have to step a bit more carefully regarding this in the future. Thanks for the reality check, even if I’m still not entirely sold on the reality you’re selling lol. I’ll just have to look further into it, maybe I’m just grasping for straws here

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Anonymous mushy.the.mushroom 4d

Where did you find this info on the increase over the last 15 years?

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Anonymous #1 4d

It’s entirely possible yeah. But what fucking variable would it be? I’m not saying I can’t be wrong here. I’m just pointing out that there is evidence to imply that perhaps the self reported usage of snap by conservatives might be inaccurate. Maybe it’s not. But either way, counties that *did* vote for Trump still primarily use snap the most. Which is weird.

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Anonymous #2 4d

It’s data from political explorer.

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Anonymous #2 4d

Here’s a link to the social explorer page I got this from. I’d send a screenshot but the formatting of the website looks really fucked up on my phone, because my phone screen is abnormally small. https://www.socialexplorer.com/home/post/political-explorer-counties-with-largest-increases-in-food-stamps-since-2010-went-for-trump-in-2020? If you copy from a photo be aware that it’ll likely put spaces between each new line, if you’re having problems with it not taking you to the right page.

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Anonymous #4 4d

and if we look at studies that link red states to receiving more SNAP benefits per capita than blue states, those rely on proxy classifications of states as red/blue and are more about state-level funding flows rather than individual party affiliation. you could at most say that the highest per capita SNAP participation lean republican largely bc of higher poverty rates in those states, but in total numbers recipients live in large democratic-leaning states.

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Anonymous #4 4d

meant to say “states with the highest per capita SNAP participation lean republican…”

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