Anonymous #2 11w

That’s the ugliest fucking fascist cake I’ve seen

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Anonymous #2 11w

Moron

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Anonymous #4 11w

Fascist

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Anonymous #2 11w

You love throwing around that word don’t you

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Anonymous #4 11w

Yes I love calling out fascists

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Anonymous #2 11w

Lol

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Anonymous #2 11w

I’m a leftist and you’re delusional. This is the definition of unnecessary hatred. You can still be critical of your country’s crimes while wanting to make it a better place

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Anonymous #6 11w

now you see why people think words are just thrown around now?

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Anonymous #8 11w

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren’t. Trump and Miller are still Nazis who want to ethnically cleanse our country of non-white citizens, but this claim about July 4 is definitely stupid. Though I will say, the GOP harping about patriotism is hilarious given how unconstitutional they’ve been acting for the past year

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Anonymous #2 11w

Bro literally proving ops point

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Anonymous #6 11w

Okay “leftist”. Who tf said I don’t want it to be a better place? Why do you think I hate it so much

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Anonymous #2 11w

You’re hating someone for having an American flag on a cake. And they clearly dislike the current administration and MAGA, based off the wording of their post. You’ve lost the plot with your purity politics

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Anonymous #9 11w

That that is the ugliest fucking cake I’ve ever seen?

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Anonymous #6 11w

Omg it’s not about the current admin, you sound like a Zionist. It’s about America and what it has always been. Not the “purity politics”. I need a bingo card

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Anonymous #2 11w

Yeah, America was founded on a genocide. The fact isn’t lost on me. But loving America means something different to everyone. For me, it’s loving our diversity and the brave people standing up for our rights. You ARE participating in purity politics- generalizing everyone with a shred of fondness towards the country they were presumably born in as fascists

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Anonymous #6 11w

There is nothing to love about a settler colony founded on slavery and genocide and that it is currently committing the most violence upon the world the last 80 years. i don’t understand what’s so hard to grasp about that Having fondness for the place you live ≠ celebrating a settler colony

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Anonymous #2 11w

News fucking flash, having an American flag can mean you like the place you live. It doesn’t automatically mean celebrating a settler colony. I mean damn just leave the US if you hate it that much. I don’t get you puritans and I never will

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Anonymous #6 11w

That is not what it means at all, can you not critically think. So ppl flying the Nazi flag were good bc they just really liked where they lived?? Why tf would I abandon my community, is that what you do when shit gets real? You just flee?

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Anonymous #6 11w

Run away from all your problems?? Stop projecting

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Anonymous #2 11w

The Nazi flag wasn’t the German flag. That’s like comparing flying a confederate flag to the American flag. Fucking obviously they represent different things.

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Anonymous #2 11w

No I’ve been in front of Delaney supporting my community and actually putting my money where my mouth is, it just pisses me off when puritans like you come on Sidechat and think you can decide who’s a good person or not based on whether they have a fucking flag. America represents a lot of things beyond just being a settler colony, and if this much isn’t obvious to you then there’s no point in having any further discussion.

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Anonymous #6 11w

It wasn’t the flag during Nazi germany… the Nazi flag was?? The confederate flag and American flag are just as problematic as the Nazi flag. Only part of the us was under the confederacy. It was just two different racist flags being flown

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Anonymous #6 11w

So if you also community organize, why tf are you telling me to abandon the community I work so hard to help protect? Did I say anything about being a good person? Why are you offended and so defensive Yeah ur right. It also represents slavery, genocide, white supremacy, patriarchy, imperialism, war, the destruction of nearly a billion lives, a war against democracy . I could go on. Gen what is there to celebrate

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Anonymous #2 11w

“Did I say anything about being a good person?” You called OP fascist for having a cake with the American flag on it. Fascists are bad people in my book. Just stop downplaying what you said. If you love your community the way I do, then maybe use your brain and understand that that’s why some people love America. America has some of the top universities in the world, cutting edge medical technology, abundant natural diversity, ethnic melting pot, protected speech, progressive queer laws, etc

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Anonymous #6 11w

I could go on. Yeah plenty about America fucking sucks but it’s so disingenuous to pretend like there’s nothing good about living here

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Anonymous #6 11w

Yeah… bc that’s what they are? It’s not like a personal insult. It’s identifying the obvious They love the very system that is oppressing their community? How does that make sense? Okay yeah all on the back of poor brown ppl? Still not understanding what there is to celebrate

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Anonymous #2 11w

Dude I am literally a brown person. Like my entire family is from India. And yeah immigrants have brought so much innovation and diversity to this country, but are you seriously going to pretend that white Americans have never contributed anything?

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Anonymous #6 11w

The nature is why you should celebrate turtle island. Not the system that is actively threatening the environment? What progressive queer laws?

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Anonymous #2 11w

You’re not on this thread to have a discussion or expand your perspective, you just ragged on a clearly left-leaning person for having a patriotic cake. Like it must be miserable inside your head. I’m upset over everything that’s happening in our country right now, but I can’t imagine hating on people who are just trying to celebrate the Fourth of July.

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Anonymous #6 11w

Anything that’s good here is in spite of America. Not bc of it

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Anonymous #2 11w

Be so for real. Gay marriage is banned in many countries, and being queer can be a death sentence. Compared to that, yes we have progressive laws. Things are going to shit under the current regime, but generally speaking America has been relatively progressive in that sphere

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Anonymous #6 11w

Okay cool congrats? And I’m referring to the global south, not Americans. I never said white Americans haven’t contributed anything what lmao

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Anonymous #2 11w

“Okay yeah all on the backs of poor brown ppl?” Then explain what you meant by this?

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Anonymous #6 11w

I just said it? I was referring to the global south, not Americans 😭

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Anonymous #2 11w

There’s a latency between comments being posted so I didn’t see that at first. But I still have to ask, genuinely what is the solution for this? Hate the country so much that you dissolve it? What happens then? What is the end goal of this vitriol? Because the reasonable solution is to push to reform the system and create a better one, not destroy everything because you hate what it stands for. The OP probably shares some of your viewpoints but you’re alienating them with your hatred

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Anonymous #6 11w

You’re not trying to expand your perspective. Ur acting like your perspective isn’t the default one brainwashed into all of us. We were all indoctrinated to think like you. You think i dont understand the perspective i was taught and believed most of my life? Im the one who has done considerable work to deconstruct. You havent.

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Anonymous #6 11w

You’re not on the left if you support America. It’s a very clear line, not sure why you’re not understanding. America is doing everything it can to eradicate any leftist ideas or people. It always has It’s not miserable at all, I finally feel connected to my community and hopeful. Instead of hopeless and nihilistic like we’re taught to be I’m hating on ppl who come into us politics to brag about their ugly fascist cake bc that’s what this community is meant for. Discussion and differing idea

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Anonymous #6 11w

Gay marriage is literally this close to be overturned. And it’s a death sentence elsewhere literally bc of US and other western empires. America is never truly progressive. It only gives us crumbs sometimes so that we don’t overthrow the government. You think they gen care about gay people?? 😭

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Anonymous #6 11w

Yes exactly! Finally you’re getting it. This country needs to be dismantled asap before it destroys the world. What happens then? Democracy!! Aka socialism. A country by and for the people. Finally! That’s all leftists want Reform (in capitalist countries) isn’t reasonable at all. It just delays our suffering and prevents actual meaningful change

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Anonymous #2 11w

I do support a radical reformation of government. Don’t preach to me about my perspective, because you’re the one who’s been incensed and narrow-minded this entire thread. But I don’t think anything like that can happen with you barking at other leftists or liberals for liking a flag on a cake. Of all the hills you could choose to die on, this is by far the stupidest one.

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Anonymous #2 11w

An actual revolution requires you to love your country enough to want it to be better, and while you endorse a similar sentiment in an earlier comment, the rest of your comments are quite literally just about how much you hate America, so I have no idea what to believe about you.

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Anonymous #6 11w

Queer and minority rights are obviously under attack right now, but we have pretty strong and outspoken queer and minority communities in America. That was only made possible by the people who fought for civil rights before us, and to me they constitute my ideal America. Seeing the good in my country isn’t equivalent to dismissing its evils throughout history. You have such a one-track perspective.

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Anonymous #6 11w

There’s nothing radical about capitalist reforms. Like I said, it only prolongs suffering, exploitation and capitalism You’re the one who can’t handle different opinions. Your opinion is literally the mainstream and you can’t handle any pushback. I’m not narrow minded for being against capitalism, bro. Expand your perspective Leftists would never support a pro settler colony cake, idk what world you live in.

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Anonymous #2 11w

I’m a supporter of democratic socialism myself, but you’re only going to end up pushing people away from the DSA with your vitriolic comments. Viewing everyone else as simply being ignorant to the truth for liking the American flag is a superiority complex. Anyway, I hope you can be less miserable because that seems exhausting

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Anonymous #6 11w

An actual revolution requires you to hate your current conditions to risk any sense of stability you have to overthrow it. What is radical about loving settler colonialism and capitalism? Ofc I hate America, bro. It’s oppressing all of us. Where have you been How don’t you see those ppl you refer to are pushing back AGAINST America? Not in support of it…

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Anonymous #6 11w

“Democratic socialism” so you’re a soc dem, then. Aka a liberal. Not a leftist Americans ARE ignorant, it’s okay to acknowledge truths, esp about a hegemonic power, even if it hurts your feelings. This country only exists bc of the ignorance engrained into us. Do better. Deconstruct. And stop centering your American identity over democracy for all

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Anonymous #6 11w

I’m very happy and hopeful, why do you think I hate America so much

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