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You can agree with the left on 95 percent of things and they’ll still make you out to be a villain. For example I think the progressive faction of the wing aren’t patriotic enough and lowkey aren’t proud to be Americans. And Covid lockdowns were a scam
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Anonymous 12w

Your 1st disagreement is probably based on right wing pundits telling you straight lies about the DSA and other leftists orgs, the 2nd one is like the first stepping stone to being antivax

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Anonymous 12w

Most leftists aren’t proud to be Americans because of immutable characteristics of the “American” national idea

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Anonymous 12w

Conservatives are arguably less patriotic than progressives and COVID lockdown was not a scam.

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Anonymous 12w

COVID being a scam doesn’t work because there’s no real motive there. Any motive you could come up with would have a much easier path to its success than fabricating a global pandemic lmao

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Anonymous 12w

But other than those 2 things I agree with the left on most things

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Anonymous 12w

COVID wasn’t a scam. It was just a social control test that came just conveniently when civil unrest was beginning to bubble.

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Anonymous 12w

This is just another flavor of pandemic denialism. Newsflash you absolute moron, lockdowns are one of the most effective ways to prevent the spread of highly transmissible airborne disease. There is literally no better prevention tactic than social distancing. “Aren’t patriotic enough”? Yeah it’s fucking hard to be patriotic when a quarter of the country voted for a corrupt pedophile and we’re still propping up a genocidal entity in the Middle East for our own gain. The left doesn’t want you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

No I see with my two own eyes how a lot of progressives will support countries and groups of people who hate America for example Palestine. Palestine cheered when 9/11 happened and were expected to support them

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

believe it or not, i don’t need people to like me for me to not want them to be blown the fuck up by israelis.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

like why is that so difficult to believe???

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 12w

And I get suspicious about Covid lockdowns when the left and healthcare workers encouraged protests for George Floyd when so many things that are essential to happiness of people especially the youth were still closed. They even said racism was a bigger public health crisis then Covid which totally makes me question the severity of Covid with comments like that

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

Because they actively cheered on 9/11 so why should I support them

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

refer to my first comment do you need people to like you to not want them to be turned into a pile of ash

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

like you just rereleased the first album bro

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

So your saying it’s fine that they cheered on one of the darkest days in the history of this nation

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

answer the question do you need people to like you to not want them to die. why is this so hard to answer?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

I need them to not cheer 9/11

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

yes or no. answer the question. don’t be vague on purpose.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

"agree with the left on 95 percent of things" and your crybaby ass is in here justifying a genocide you're not running for office bitch

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

And I need you to not gloss over one of the biggest tragedies in the history of this nation. Which a lot of people on the left seem to do

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

When it comes to 9/11

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

great. i don’t support 9/11. that doesn’t mean i also think it’s okay for palestinians to be blown up. your turn. do you think israel blowing up hospitals is okay? do you need people to like you for you to not want them to be turned into a red stain on the street? yes or no?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Bro thinks Palestinian children were cheering something that happened before they were born

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Celebrating 9/11 shouldn’t be a death sentence for an entire ethnicity.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

like are you so pathetic that you won’t cheer somebody on because they were mean to you once 20 years ago? is that what i’m hearing?

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12w

Also isn’t this shit about everyone from a nation being responsible the same shit that is used to excuse the atrocity that is 9/11? 9/11 happened because of American support for Israel’s actions. Random office workers didn’t deserve to be killed for that, and neither do random Palestinians. But you are choosing that collective responsibility applies but just for brown people.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

No I don’t think Israel should be doing that I’m not a fan of Israel either. However I don’t think we should give much active support to a country who has cheered “death to America” in the past.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

COVID-19 was a Chinese plot that Dems took full advantage of

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

why is it so hard for you to answer my question? yes or no. do you need people to like you for you to want them to be alive?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

No they don’t although I think your forgetting Palestine has a terriorist government in place. And when many politicians in congress on the far left seem to care more about Palestine than America it’s concerning

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

And before you bring up Israel I have problems with politicians who put Israel first as well

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Oh! Oh! So it’s conditional! “i want them to be alive but only if they like me” oh… wait that’s just saying no with extra steps… clown.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

When did I say that lol. I literally said Israel shouldn’t be doing that but I reminded you of Hamas lol

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

So your saying we should support hamas?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Oh so you think it’s fine for people to be massacred if their government sucks? That sounds like how someone shitty would try to justify 9/11…

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12w

Yeah this is when the far left looses the plot when they try and compare America to Hamas

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

“no i don’t but terrorists run the country so it’s okay and they should be blown up” is that right? is that what you said? that sure seems to be what you said!

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 12w

Well may I ask how we should deal with these terrorist because if they gain power and we left them alone they would potentially try to attack the west

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Hey bro I’m American and I support death to America we are the great satan

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Israel is why Hamas is in power. Israel created Hamas. First by displacing Palestinians in the Nakba, then by colonizing the West Bank causing to the PLO losing the support of Palestinians, then by funneling Qatari money to Hamas to keep them in power and prevent the creation of a unified moderate Palestinian state.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 12w

If we stopped letting American bombs blow up orphanages in the Middle East maybe other countries wouldn’t hate us

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

ask yourself first why the so called “terrorists” are there in the first place. and before you say anything, being brown doesn’t make somebody a terrorist.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Oh so you are against terrorists who attack Americans? Look up Operation Susannah. It was an Israeli government false flag plot to plant bombs in American, British, and Egyptian civilian targets in Egypt so that the British wouldn’t withdraw from the Suez.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

We don’t HAVE far left politicians, dumbass. We provide zero support whatsoever to Palestine and that will never change. You’re being delusional all on your own and you’re fucking larping because no you very clearly don’t agree with 95% of the left’s ideologies

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

AOC IIhan Omar and Mandami all far left

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

Honestly, the most patriotic thing you can feel for your country is to want to make it better, and damn if I don’t want that every single day

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

See this is another issue of the left lecturing people and preaching to be on a higher moral standard

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

On what? Genocide? Buddy if you can’t pass that basic litmus test, I’m sorry to break it to you but you’re an objectively bad person

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

They were so effective that the left told people to break lockdown to protest racism because it was a bigger public health concern than Covid like that contradicts the whole argument

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

So tired of coddling people with opinions like yours. Like fuck off man

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

And this is the reason why this post was made

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Not sure if you saw literally any of the images from those protests, but the vast majority of people were wearing masks. Being outside is also fundamentally different to being inside because aerosols diffuse from airflow instead of remaining stagnant in the air. This is basic knowledge ffs

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

But were they six feet apart and acting in a sanitary fashion?

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

Yeah they also shut down parks and beaches so this argument has so much hypocrisy

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Number 9 understands the hypocrisy

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

No idea what the fuck “acting in a sanitary fashion” means, but let’s be clear. I’m not condoning huge public gatherings in the context of a pandemic

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

You may not but healthcare workers were which is total hypocrisy

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Anonymous replying to -> cheese_of_the_world_unite 12w

Uh China had a ton of motivation.

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 12w

And we definitely aren’t proud of yall

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

I’m losing brain cells talking to you. Yeah, I can objectively say I disagree with large gatherings when a pandemic is happening while also pointing out COVID is much less infectious outdoors for the simple reason of uncontained airflow. You have the mental capacity of a pea

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

Well I think it’s bullshit people were allowed to mass gather when people’s livelihood and mental health were destroyed thanks to the draconian lockdowns that caused more issues than good

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

I understand where they’re coming from. How are we going to let people get murdered by the police, on video in broad daylight, especially as a result of systemic race-based violence, and just stand by? I can disagree with the protesters’ choice to gather but respect why they did.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

“Draconian” oh come on, stop victimizing yourself when 20 million people died. I went outside to plenty of parks and around my neighborhood, no idea why people couldn’t just be doing that. Actually, plenty of people did, it just seems like you didn’t. And I say this as someone who had dogshit mental health in 2020, whose parent was a first aid worker and had multiple family friends die from COVID. Neither you nor I are the victims here

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

All they did that for was Dems building their mob (that they claim was J6) that they can sic on the public whenever they want to. George Floyd died from being a drug addict

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

Yes they were such hero’s burning down cities and businesses in the name of racism such hero’s

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 12w

You’re delusional man. I don’t know what else to say. There is video of Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck and preventing him from breathing over a span of minutes. January 6 was a failed insurrection attempt by MAGA. No one can help you or engage in productive discussion if your reality is this warped

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

Really I’m not a victim well I saw more negatives to the tyranny that lockdowns were than positives.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

The ultimate negative of the pandemic was dying from it and you didn’t. So sorry you suffered the hardship of staying inside your house. People I know were rushed to the ICU to get intubated and have permanent side effects from their infection. You have a victim complex

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

Studies have shown that the lockdowns did nothing much to stop the death rate it was all security theater and a violation of so many people’s rights. I used to be more left leaning before the pandemic but saw the hypocrisy that it was okay to mass gather and cause destruction but so many other gatherings were frowned upon by the left

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Protesting okay… seeing family members not okay the list of things the left condemned doing during the pandemic but okay’s protesting it’s just hypocrisy no way around it

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Alright show me those studies. I can already tell this is bad faith because “lockdowns stopping the death rate” is not a coherent premise, you cannot directly measure that

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

I can show you the hypocrisy because there were protests “outside” against lockdowns but the left and healthcare workers condemned those protests for get this fear of spreading Covid. But when it’s regarding racism those condemnations from healthcare workers and the left went away

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

Sweden didn’t really lockdown and studies shows there death rates were similar per capta. Same with u.s. states California locked down way longer than Florida for example and had similar death rates

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Yet another bad faith argument. I’d rather abstain from visiting my family than endanger their health. I’m lucky I live with my grandparents so I wasn’t prevented from visiting them, but that meant staying extra cautious to keep them safe. The people protesting were a tiny fraction of the people adhering to lockdown

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Maybe you don’t understand this, but there’s a such thing as weighing pros versus cons. The immediate threat of police brutality towards the black community was greater than the risk of contracting COVID outdoors in that moment. The BLM protests followed a rash of unwarranted police violence against young black individuals resulting in death. George Floyd’s death was just the straw that broke the camel’s back

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

I want to see those studies. Link them. I’ll interrogate the literature on my own because I’m not going to just take you at face value after all of the arguments you’ve put out

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

Well who is to judge to deem what is okay not okay to do during covid.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Because fine than if the protests we’re allowed than a lot of other things should have been allowed to

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

Bro stop yapping if you have studies link them and then you can finish the conversation

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w
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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

It’s also about the economy and how it effected the youth which is our generation Gen Z was the most hurt by these lockdowns

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9426308/

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

https://record.umich.edu/articles/lockdowns-saved-lives-but-not-a-go-to-strategy-moving-forward/

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

There’s the studies.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

They are like center left they’re democratic socialist not fucking marxists

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

“Far left” and they’re just a normal European center to center-left politician

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12w

After hearing about what’s going on in UK, it does appear that thats’s quite far

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

Nothing statistically relevant is happening in the UK the rape gang shit is far right propaganda

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 12w

Prove it

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

Propaganda can be correct. If your only response is “it’s propaganda” that means nothing. I’ve read it up til recommendations.

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 12w

Henry Nowak died because the cops thought he was racist. There is 2 tier policing going on in the U.K.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 12w

You guys constantly deny police brutality in the USA but one instance of police injustice in the UK makes you claim there’s white genocide.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12w

“One instance” why don’t you use your eyes and read the documentation for it. There have been plenty of cases, and other circumstances to support policy written in text that is anti-white, and the amount of things that the government has done to white people.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

God I wish you guys cared about real systemic racism as much as you cared about made up systemic racism. But you only care about if it’s against white people, which is why you have to make it up.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12w

Prove that it’s made up

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

There’s a rape gang inquiry report available for you, and you can do your own research. If your only response is “b-b-b-but it’s far right propaganda” instead of actually showing where something is wrong then you can see yourself out the door.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

The problem is you’re taking a very narrow view of the issue. You’re focusing on one inquiry instead of the majority of rape cases which are perpetuated by white men. Why can’t you look at all of these crimes as a whole? Oh, because then it wouldn’t substantiate your narrative

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

Because 250000 white British girls racially and religiously selected is not nothing. Policy that explicitly treats white peoples differently which is why Nowak died was also present, and the current cultural and ethnic wiping of those people is incomparably horrid to whatever systemic problem to what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

It IS a systemic issue. Also, white at least for now still hold a majority population of the UK, so there’s that.

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 12w

Hell, if you read the report there were cops who were having at the girls who were quite frankly and very apparently treated like slaves and were even given slurs like “pigdog” and “kaffar”

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

A sexual violence issue isn’t police conduct nor government policy, genius. But you just put all “brown people scary” shit you read on Twitter in the same category in your head and don’t care about whether it actually makes cohesive sense or not.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 12w

I didn’t though? I don’t even use Twitter so you’re doubly wrong. Stop making things up in your head to attack me for.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

Bro they ignored the rape cases because ALMOST ALL rape cases are systematically ignored! That is an issue with misogyny and rape. Culture,not with immigrants. I’m so TIRED of people only pretending to care about women when they can use it as an excuse to be racist

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 12w

The immigration is involved because the kinds of people whose cultures permit misogyny of that degree are immigrants who come from specific regions and countries like Pakistan. UK for its own safety should halt the assembly line and start the repairs quickly.

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Anonymous replying to -> #9 12w

Going to be honest, as a woman who’s lived in America her whole life, I feel pretty routinely unsettled around random men and have been sexually harassed plenty of times by absolute strangers and “friends”/relatives alike. You have to stop pretending misogyny isn’t an incredibly prevalent thing everywhere. I do not feel any safer around white male citizens than I do male immigrants.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 12w

Bro China had to shut down their entire economy too they did not have motivation to fake a pandemic lmfao

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 12w

I didn’t ask.

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Anonymous replying to -> xi.jinping 12w

You’re the ones being observed, not the other way around. We don’t need your input,

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 12w

Hey, this post basically implied the “Why do leftists hate America?” And I gave a reason. This is an open forum.

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