Anonymous #2 22h

If Dems put up a majority of candidates like Mamdani they’d almost assuredly lose. Mamdani like in safe districts would be great. But in contested districts appeal to the mean

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Anonymous #1 22h

Republicans just love people like you and Josh Barro

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Anonymous #1 22h

Moderate do nothing democrats do not appeal to the electorate

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Anonymous OP 22h

Do you know what happened the last time this country was this polarized, where the national goals between each party in power flipped every election, getting increasingly hostile towards each other and using sleezy means to gain a majority representation? We got into a civil war. It wasn’t until 1863 that it became about slavery. And that was more of a propaganda tool to keep Britain out of the war.

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Anonymous OP 22h

I get it bro I’m livid with the Dems too. I’d vote for Mamdani in my purple swing state district if he was on the ballot. But my conservative parents wouldn’t. They’d vote Trump again before voting Mamdani. They would vote for someone like Josh Shapiro. Not that’s he’s who I agree most with. But he’s someone more people can agree with yk?

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Anonymous OP 22h

They appeal to independents and conservatives more than they do the left leaning population yeah. The country is not a majority democrat. If you want a majority, you need to swing a majority of independents or a proportion of both independents and republicans. That’s just simple numbers.

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Anonymous #1 22h

My dad would not vote Kamala or Clinton but he voted for Obama and Joe Biden 🥀 (He’s a non-Trump Republican I think he just voted 3rd party in 216 2024)

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Anonymous #2 22h

I’m worried the gender thing might’ve played a bigger role there :(

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Anonymous #1 22h

Kamala shifted to the right and lost because huge numbers of Biden voters did not turn up to vote. Centrist Janet Mills dropped out of Maine’s senate primary because she couldn’t get any enthusiasm and was polling poorly against Susan Collins. Moderate Andrew Cuomo lost twice to Mamdani. Your simple numbers are not as simple as you think.

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Anonymous OP 22h

No I understand that’s why Kamala lost. If we were coming off a moderate dem cycle I’d agree. But we’re coming off a Republican cycle where republicans are gaining an unprecedented number of mid decade seats. Securing seats is the most important thing. 2 moderate Dems in office passes more legislation than 1 leftist and 1 Republican

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Anonymous OP 22h

New York never goes red. The election is always between establishment dem and establishment dem. Mamdani broke that yeah, but only because the diversity of thought is “how far left do we go?” Vs the country as a whole it’s “do we go slightly left or do we jump right off a cliff?”

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Anonymous #1 22h

You’re stuck on this idea that establishment dems are more likely to win

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Anonymous OP 22h

I mean yeah I am. I’m not convinced that non establishment left of center dems have a meaningful chance in contested elections. I think we need to see them prove success in safe dem districts first. Prove they can get the attention and support they need from their own party before trying to capture the opposition. A dem +25 district? Hell yeah let’s make it happen. A dem +5 or lower? Probably should err on the side of caution

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