Trans Talk on Sidechat | I think the worst thing ever is that I’m like genuinely attractive as a guy. Like I’d date me, 7/10, but I just want to be a girl, and I know that I’m gonna go from like 7/10 guy to like 4/10 girl 😭

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Trans Talk 8w

I think the worst thing ever is that I’m like genuinely attractive as a guy. Like I’d date me, 7/10, but I just want to be a girl, and I know that I’m gonna go from like 7/10 guy to like 4/10 girl 😭

Anonymous 8w

your brain is lying to you a you who isn't really you can never touch girl you. also you underestimate boobs

Anonymous 8w

If it helps I rarely ever see trans people who don’t look objectively better after transitioning. Like there’ll probably be an awkward phase cause it’s puberty but after that? From what I’ve seen people look better 95% of the time

Anonymous 8w

well, look at it this way: there’s a lot of worldly perspective to be learned from the firsthand experience of living as a girl who isn’t considered conventionally beautiful, and you sound like you may be exactly the type of person who would benefit from said perspective

Anonymous 8w

Youll look so much better just with the light in your eyes babe. Dont get hung up on a future you havent even strived for i promise its worth it in every lifetime

Anonymous 8w

me too. male puberty has completely destroyed my body.

Anonymous

#1 8w

Boobs…..

Anonymous

#5 8w

would you say that to other trans women or transfems who had to go through male puberty?

Anonymous

#6 8w

no. this is me being dysphoric and commisserating with someone who's having a similar thought process.

Anonymous

#5 8w

i just think there's better ways to say it than "going through male puberty destroys your body". almost every tgirl is going to go through male puberty, and implying that it's completely ruining you isn't good for your mental health or any other trans women that see those sentiments

Anonymous

#5 8w

like i totally get it, obviously, as another trans person. i just think we should pay attention to what and how we say stuff about trans people and trans bodies

Anonymous

#6 8w

tbf #5 didn’t say “our bodies,” just “my body.” it definitely didn’t destroy some of my other trans friends’ bodies, but it did mine. everyone’s puberty & everyone’s body is different

Anonymous

#7 8w

ftr I’m proud of being able to stitch my body back together, so it’s not necessarily a doomer thing. it’s just acknowledging smth shitty that happened to you

Anonymous

#7 8w

now that i think about it, them trying to patrol my language about my own dysphoria is crazy.

Anonymous

#5 8w

i'm not trying to patrol your dysphoria. i have just literally seen people latch onto that rhetoric after hearing it and start violently hating themselves and feeling like there's no hope to even transition. i hate how my natal puberty changed me and i get that dysphoria sucks, but i hate seeing the idea pushed that being trans ruins your body, as if your natal puberty is just the state that you are now.

Anonymous

#7 8w

absolutely!! it's just i've seen circles where that kind of language rolls and it turns into a self-loathing cesspool, often with people deciding to just never transition because they latch onto this idea that they're "ruined"

Anonymous

#6 8w

I get that, a lot of trans people definitely fall down a rabbit hole of self-hatred & thinking their dysphoria is permanent because of their puberty. I don’t think the language used is inherently reflective of that mindset or spaces, but it can def indicate it. we’re on an anon app so we have to make a lot of assumptions when reading stuff lol