Anonymous #1 1d

like sure, you can say that in a silly way, but AGAB isnt an internal identity and shouldn’t be used that way

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Anonymous #3 1d

it's expanded beyond that. i've seen people talk about "amab socialisation" and "afab-only housing" and the like, and those are situations where the sex assigned at birth does not convey the full story of what is meant.

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Anonymous OP 1d

they shouldn’t be using it in that context either

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Anonymous #4 1d

they are using it in that context though, so agab has taken on some meaning beyond the original meaning. this happens all the time with words. just because the word has an "intended" meaning doesn't mean that's actually what it means

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Anonymous OP 1d

acknowledging a misuse of the term & making it part of a genuine identity because of that seems weird

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Anonymous OP 1d

yeah no. while its true that words change, the acronym agab is specifically referring to what gender you were assigned at birth. thats it. not even getting into the majority problem that is stuff like “amab socialization” and “afab only spaces”, but like thats besides the point. These words were created by the intersex community for a specific reason and we should only use them for said reason

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Anonymous #1 1d

i see agab language "mis"used as much as, if not more than in the "appropriate" sense, so clearly the meaning has changed from the original meaning. with this new meaning, they are almost synonymous with the terms "male" and "female", so it makes sense to include myself as "female" and thus "afab"

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Anonymous OP 1d

the entire point is that they are not synonymous with male and female. they were made by the fucking intersex community

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Anonymous #4 1d

the original sense is just not how the words are used anymore. clearly those examples, which i've both seen repeatedly, are not using it nearly in the sense that the intersex community meant when they created it

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Anonymous OP 1d

it’s changed into a form of fake-acceptance misgendering & is weaponized against trans people again and again. by using it as an identity, you’re evoking thoughts of how our society mistreats us, and your reasoning follows their logic instead of defying it. you’re not reclaiming the term, you’re just buying into their rhetoric.

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Anonymous #1 1d

yeah. it's fake-acceptance. it's like how some people will say trans women are biologically male. my counterargument is usually that we are biologically female because the brain is biological. every term to define womanhood is either inadequate or includes trans women.

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Anonymous OP 1d

tbh it’s only your term to reclaim if you’re intersex since that’s where it came from… unless someone who’s intersex says it’s fine. I’m not one so I wouldn’t know

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Anonymous #1 1d

i'm not reclaiming it. i'm not intersex, of course i can't do that. i'm instead analysing the word as it's used. i didn't even know it came from the intersex community. side note: this discussion kind of reminds me of the word woke, which was appropriated from black culture and has changed in meaning from "aware of the white supremacy that still persists" to "generally leftist, usually in a pejorative sense"

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Anonymous OP 1d

I’m confused what the purpose of this analysis is if you’re not reclaiming it

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Anonymous OP 1d

as in, is this meant to be a joke? if it is then that’s great, it just wasn’t clear if you were serious or not, and your comments made it sound like you wanted to use it as part of an identity. you’ve said that’s not your intent, so I’m still confused if this is a joke or satire or smth else 😭

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Anonymous #1 1d

it's semi-serious. the purpose of it is that i saw the terms getting used in the ways i gave examples of one too many times and wanted to vent

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Anonymous OP 1d

oh that’s real, I didn’t interpret it that way but based

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