Anonymous #1 6w

Yeah that’s fine, meeting hormonal and physical requirements already exist in professional sports

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Anonymous #2 6w

Define sex and gender

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Anonymous #3 6w

I’d like to see you try to do the same. Define sex and gender!

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science is actually distinguishing gender and sex as two different things

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I didn’t ask you to cry. I told you to define the two words. Do it

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Anonymous OP 6w

I mean, it’s both a social construct, so why can a white person say they are black if a man can say they are a woman

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Anonymous #6 6w

Are you able to define sex and gender?

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Anonymous #5 6w

You saying “The only argument they have is using the facts and scientific descriptions of the things we’re talking about! I can’t fathom that anyone is different than me! Get help!” Isn’t really an argument. It’s a tantrum

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Anonymous OP 6w

Feel like having to scream for attention and validation serves to show more of an emotional fallout and inability to cope with reality than any other “tantrum” you think i might be having. I appreciate your concern, but once again, if subjective interpretation is all that you have to argue with, then i dont think that reality is the problem. It’s you. Once again, i will encourage you to seek help. Thank you for your input.

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Anonymous #5 6w

I didn’t read passed the first sentence. If you’re going to cry about these self inflicted delusions that have offended you then do it to someone who cares about placating your feelings. Nobody can ever give the definitions or talk science because you guys know you’re wrong. Cry more lol

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You proved my point with this lol. Your tantrum doesn’t matter to me. I’m not reading it. Please, continue spending your time writing paragraphs on how much those delusions of yours have impacted you! I’m sure someone will read it at some point! Seriously go ahead. I’ll wait for the next tantrum!

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Anonymous OP 6w

and yet you’re still here! This is funny asl, lemme see how long I can waste your time bc this is only telling me you got no one else to talk to lol 🫵🤣 Keep crying!

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Anonymous #7 6w

^ exactly. No hate to them as people or their belonging in society. Even if they meet hormone standards for sports, they still developed as male for many years, which itself, is an advantage. If someone take performance enhancing drugs to improve training for a small period of their training, then stops and keeps competing, they will always have the benefit of that boost from training.

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Anonymous #7 6w

To clarify since I can’t edit my comment, the “you’re a moron part” was directed towards the original “men in women’s sports” guy. It’s equally as dense and disrespectful to say no men in women’s sports.

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Anonymous #7 6w

As a trans women, this. I do not think I should be competing against cis women. The separation was not made for social reasons, it was made for physical ones. And it takes a long time for HRT to start atrophying your muscles- it does happen- but it’s slow going. And additionally, not every trans woman undergoes HRT which is totally fine. But testosterone is a performance enhancing drug and it takes a LONG TIME to undo its effects. I don’t know what the solution is.

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Anonymous #10 6w

Like cuz similarly, it’s not fair for a trans man who’s undergoing HRT to compete against cis women neither because, again, testosterone is a performance enhancing drug. It’s a messy situation and I don’t think either doing it by gender or by sex works perfectly, but the distinction was made for a pretty rational reason, similarly to weight classes in combat sports.

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Anonymous #7 6w

It’s not a stupid sentiment to say trans women are women. The HRT process can wuite literally reduce muscle mass and your ability to gain/maintain muscle.

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Anonymous #7 6w

Thank you for clarifying that first part

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Anonymous #9 6w

Trans women are women

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Anonymous #11 6w

So many people gaf. Trans people experience more hate crimes than any other member of the LGBTQ community. For only making up 1% of the population, there’s thousands of laws against them. Even in this comment section people are clearly not okay with it.

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Anonymous #10 6w

Why do you think it’s unreasonable to garage competitive standards by actual physical standards alone?

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Anonymous OP 6w

If they’re women you don’t need trans in front of women moron

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Anonymous #9 6w

You won’t understand what I just sent so I’m re-typing it. Putting an adjective in front of a noun doesn’t change the meaning of the noun. Brown women are women. Tall women are women. Masculine women are women.

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Anonymous OP 6w

Chocolate lab, yellow lab, silver lab. Labs

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Anonymous OP 6w

Except in those examples your describing a different category, trans women is the same as saying man woman, they’re opposites genius

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Anonymous #9 6w

Define transgender without looking it up

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Anonymous OP 6w

op why don’t you just think they are trans women and trans men and the trans is helpful because it gives context about the person it belongs to. It’s that simple

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Anonymous #12 6w

Because transgender is the adjective to describe the type of woman/man In the exact same way that in other contexts a gay man, is still a man regardless of whether or not you take away the gay portion

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Anonymous OP 6w

Is this a weak attempt at a comeback? Sex is your biological reality, gender is the social roles and behaviors formed from your culture based on your sex.

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Anonymous #3 6w

No, it’s you setting a foundation for the argument you’re trying to make. So when someone says they’re transgender, what does that mean, define that.

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Anonymous OP 6w

It means that the person is unfortunately mentally ill and likely suffering from autogynephilia or autoandrophilia

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Anonymous #3 6w

I didn’t ask you to tell me how you feel about the term. Actual definition in your head, hurry.

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Anonymous OP 6w

Well then you end up with stuff like basketball where if you “failed” the genetic lottery and simply weren’t born tall enough (something completely out of your control) you just don’t get to compete. Weight, height, and testosterone levels make a pretty serious impact on a lot of sports that diligence alone often fails to bridge that gap. Obviously different sports care more or less about each metric and team sports it’s a lot harder to partition of each category as opposed to individual sports.

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Anonymous #13 6w

Watch this define sex and gender

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Anonymous OP 6w

You spam replying that to everyone who isn’t delusional doesn’t do anything to help your argument 🤡

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Anonymous OP 6w

#3 already owned your ass anyways

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Anonymous #13 6w

You being unable to define the two key terms that make up this entire conversation isn’t doing anything to help yours lol.

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Anonymous #13 6w

You mean the same guy who thinks tall women aren’t women because there’s a word in front of women?

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Anonymous OP 6w

You mean the same guy who ratio’d the fuck out of you?

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Anonymous #13 6w

My post has 115 upvotes btw. Which comment arguing against me has 115? Show a screenshot of it

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Anonymous OP 6w

Your comment to #3 got ratio’d -1 to 11. That’s what I was talking about

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Anonymous #13 6w

11 upvotes to my 115 from my post? Sure, take the 11. I still ratio them at least 100 lol Or do upvotes only count when you want them to?

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Anonymous OP 6w

All of your post upvotes come from troglodytes doomscrolling. Anyone actually engaging in your arguments is bodying you

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Anonymous #13 6w

So yeah I guess they only count if they don’t offend you. 116 upvotes now btw. Get ratio’d lol

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Anonymous #13 6w

Come back when you can make the same post and get 115 Sorry 116 upvotes. “I only count upvotes when I want to because you have too many upvotes in this one thing that makes my argument look weak!”

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Anonymous OP 6w

Once again, you’re getting bodied in the comments. Take the L 🤡

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Anonymous #13 6w

Said the guy with 3 upvotes lol. 112 on you. Get ratio’d

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Anonymous OP 6w

You’re comparing your post to comments little guy 🥱

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Anonymous #13 6w

So upvotes only count when you want them to. Sorry I’m not going along with your feelings on how ratios work 😬😉

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Anonymous OP 6w

Have fun getting bodied in every comment chain with your weak and delusional arguments! 🤣🤡🤣

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Anonymous #13 6w

118 upvotes now 😬 Not goin great for you in the ratio argument

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Anonymous OP 6w

Me + the entire comment section reading your arguments

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Anonymous #13 6w

You after you realize your ratio argument was bad once you realized I had over 100 upvotes and you only had 3:

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Anonymous OP 6w

You not understanding the difference between a post and a comment:

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Anonymous #13 6w

You throwing a tantrum because you can’t cherry pick upvotes:

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Anonymous OP 6w

You should take it as a sign that anyone who actually reads your arguments is bodying you

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Anonymous #13 6w

My argument is the post lol

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Anonymous #10 6w

No, then you end up with people who physically meet each others matches

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Anonymous OP 6w

Did you actual read what I said?

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Anonymous #10 6w

I don’t think you’re conceptualizing that people can still compete against others, they’d just be categorized differently

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Anonymous OP 6w

Okay so I’m going to take that as a no considering I explicitly mention that in multiple of my replies. If you’re not going to read my replies and are just using me as your outlet to preach, I don’t see a point in continue to talk to wall. Have a good night.

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Anonymous #10 6w

It’s weird that you didn’t say that in your comment and are getting angry at the thought that I’m contesting your implied premise of people not being able to compete lol

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Anonymous #14 6w

Knowing biology beyond the 7th grade would do you wonders

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