General on Sidechat | You are not allowed to defend capitalism until you can define it, realize that it’s different from democracy, define democracy, then define communism, and lastly define authoritarianism.

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General 1d

You are not allowed to defend capitalism until you can define it, realize that it’s different from democracy, define democracy, then define communism, and lastly define authoritarianism.

Anonymous 1d

And this is not shaming anyone. Research, accept when you're wrong, deepen that research and that's how you grow as a person.

Anonymous 17h

None of those terms are concrete things. They take many forms. The worst genocides in history were a consequence of communism, just maybe not what you consider to be communism. What we have is also a form of capitalism. It can take many forms that are better or worse depending on the people running things

Anonymous 21h

Please also explain how what the US has is not true capitalism, but some form of hybrid between socialism and capitalism. (Honestly feels like we got the worst from both.)

Anonymous

#1 20h

The US is FAR from socialism😂. We are literally under the true form of capitalism, and currently experiencing late-stage capitalism, which was inevitable under a capitalist system.

Anonymous

#1 19h

You should also look up what the definition of socialism is, socialism is a one of the most standard far left political ideologies, so it’s impossible for us to currently be under it. In the past the US tried to at least pretend to be socialist by providing minimal benefits that align with socialist ideas, but those were only to calm masses and keep them thinking that the country is wonderful or something.

Anonymous

#1 19h

But you can’t call it socialism when every time, what happens is actually that a right wing politician will drag the country down, ripping the people of those minimum benefits, and the next democratic president(who is never a leftist), will just bring things back to that minimum of effort, just to distract people from realizing they have been bombing the middle east the whole time.

Anonymous

OP 19h

And It’s how they condition people into wanting just the bare minimum. Which is why we have so many liberals, instead of leftists.

Anonymous

OP 18h

The problem is we’re socialist in bad ways, we provide corporate subsidies to defense contractors and oil companies. Oil is far more expensive in Europe, because part of your taxes go towards paying for a gallon of gas before it even hits the US shores. That’s what I mean by “bad” socialism, I believe the term is state socialism. Capitalism is about free market competition, and we don’t have that, because of the political influence that shifts the scales. Companies no longer compete.

Anonymous

#1 18h

At the end of the day, both are right and both are wrong. Socialism or capitalism would produce a better system than federally subsidized Walmart telling congress how to write a bill. Instead we have political theatre where we blame the systems in place and not those who have manipulated those systems for power.

Anonymous

#1 18h

The problem you just stated is actually a result of capitalism. It’s to benefit the rich. And if it benefits the rich, then it’s capitalism. Because capitalism was implemented for the people with capital.

Anonymous

#1 18h

Then you don’t know what socialism is. I would advise you to do your research on it, and I don’t mean reading articles written by US backed sources, but even just Wikipedia. And blaming the systems is how you blame the people in charge. Because once those systems are removed, those people will no longer be able to benefit, and no one after them will be able to benefit from the suffering of the average citizen.

Anonymous

#1 18h

Blaming the system is how you stop the issue at its root, so it can never happen again. You remove systems that can be be used negatively, and implement systems that actually stop and/or punish any sort of manipulation that tries to happen