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General 4d

Nothing against religion or gym bro influencers but why is every single one insanely religious

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Anonymous 4d

Alt-right pipeline

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Anonymous 4d

Because they all have low self worth. These are ways to cope with it (religion + gym). These are environments where men have natural advantages bc most religions are patriarchal & gym culture is male dominated and marketed as a meritocracy where hard work = outcomes. It's like getting to cosplay being a good person with standards and goals and achievements without actually being good in any meaningful way.

Anonymous 4d

Is this alt right Christian pipeline where they feel they have to be this ultra masculine man of god. There’s a few Muslim ones too who also push along the same homophobic misogynistic track. And it’s compounded by useful idiot female influencers who either espouse those ideas or interact w them enough that you can assume they do.

Anonymous 4d

Manipulation was an easy way to prey on them because they’re insecure.

Anonymous 2d

Half of it is very performative. As a religious guy myself, I’ll just give you this one peice of advice: Follow Christ, or dont. Youre blessed with the free will to do either. So long as you are simply a fundamentally good person? What more could this world want from you? Boldly go and do what is right. Theres every reason to do so, and no explanation needed to be a good person.

Anonymous 3d

It’s because the left has no sense of accomplishment or work ethic and wants everything handed to them. You’re rarely going to see someone with that mindset in a place where the result is directly affected by the work put in. And generally when you have someone who works to improve themselves you will also see them look to a higher power for the things they can not control in life.

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Anonymous 4d

hmmm get specific with the demographic 😂not something I’ve seen personally

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Anonymous

#3 4d

It's very easy to be a religious man bc it asks nothing of you since all the real rules/sacrifices are for women. It's very easy to be a gym bro bc the discipline it requires is strictly physical and without any further self development, you can become aspirational and impressive to other men

Anonymous

#3 4d

you summed it up perfectly

Anonymous

#3 4d

The only thing I wld disagree w here is that gym discipline is physical only. It’s not it takes a strong mental dedication. But ur general arguments still true

Anonymous

#2 4d

I go to the gym 4 days a week and can say it does not take strong mental dedication. I just enjoy it a lot. it irks me when people act like consistency with the gym is about forcing yourself rather than finding exercises and routines that click with you. in the long-term it’s not sustainable unless you genuinely enjoy it.

Anonymous

#7 4d

I mean everyone’s journey is diff right. I was overweight for a long time still kind of am and going to the gym every day getting my cardio in, watching my calories, it’s a chore and smtimes terrible but I stick w it. I do it for my health but I can’t imagine eating right everyday to manage a six pack or anything like that. It def takes some sort of dedication.

Anonymous

#2 4d

I'm a ex fat girl with a six pack (well... the bottom half isn't showing rn bc I'm on my period but 🤣) I gotta say for the most part, the gym is not that hard. It's a first world problem for sure to act like that's some huge mountain you're climbing and overcoming through monk like discipline

Anonymous

#3 4d

Idk man maybe I’m j lazy but like it’s hard lmao

Anonymous

#3 4d

Ive never seen someone so trapped in their own head as you, nobody goes to the gym to seem like a good person lmao. Most religious people also dont even go to the gym

Anonymous

#7 4d

Its hard to diet correctly and workout if you are actually competitive or have an impressive physique though

Anonymous

#8 4d

Did you not read the post I was replying to orrrr?? Baby we're talking about hyper religious gymfluencers. And what a random statement that religious people don't go to the gym 🤣

Anonymous

#8 4d

competitive or want an impressive physique? congrats! you’ve found your way to click with working out. we constantly do things that are difficult and enjoy them, but for some reason people think the gym has to be only about pain.

Anonymous

#3 3d

The majority of religious people in the United States are women…

Anonymous

#9 3d

how is that relevant whatsoever? patriarchal systems don’t evaporate just because there’s more women in them

Anonymous

#7 3d

#3 said that it’s very easy to be a religious man, but if women were being oppressed as said by religion why are more of them religious by choice?

Anonymous

#1 3d

But actually. Alt-right is very good at seeding itself into things like fitness, or nerdy hobbies and starting the process to get dudes into that line of thinking

Anonymous

#9 3d

there’s an entire field around that, I’m pretty sure

Anonymous

#9 3d

The majority of religious people in the U.S. being women doesn’t erase the alt-right pipeline

Anonymous

#9 3d

It’s a complex response to social vulnerabilities and in the pursuit of community, rather than wholehearted endorsement of patriarchal structures. Norris and Inglehart both wrote about this, religion’s gender gap highlights how women’s need for existential security is often greater than that of men, women are also disproportionately affected by poverty, a lack of physical safety, and the burdens of being a caregiver as compared to men, because of this they frequently turn to religion

Anonymous

#1 3d

The issue is, btw, that as a result of that they end up reaffirming and conforming to those patriarchal structures that they’d likely condemn in a vacuum, which results in them being at the forefront of the forces that shame and bring down other women for not adhering to them. Modern day examples are the female morality police in Iran and the large number of very hard right and misogynistic female Christian influencers.

Anonymous

#2 3d

You are ridiculous getting all this from a christian man going to the gym by the way. You obviously need a job or something more significant to worry about so that you stop having to look for significance where there is none

Anonymous

#2 3d

Yeah, sociologists call this phenomenon “patriarchal bargaining.” In highly restrictive political or religious systems where women have very little structural power, some women choose to align with the dominant male power structure to secure physical safety, economic stability, and social status for themselves and their children. By becoming the harshest enforcers of the rules, those women gain an extra degree of protection and authority that is otherwise denied to women.

Anonymous

#8 3d

We’re obv not talking abt Christian men who go to the gym. We’re talking abt a systematic movement of young men who are very hard right Christian and equate going to the gym and their physical strength and aesthetics with masculinity in a way that is misogynistic and harmful. I’m religious (not Christian), I go to the gym and I was an admittedly overweight powerlifter and mma fighter for years, but Idt that ppl have to find god to be good ppl or that if you don’t go to the gym you ur a loser

Anonymous

#8 3d

did you read the post 💀

Anonymous

#1 3d

As someone who fell for it when I was younger, yep…

Anonymous

#11 3d

I’m not the most political person but this first half of this is objectively insane

Anonymous

OP 3d

Sorry this is the first time you’ve ever had someone be honest to you about these things.

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Anonymous

#11 3d

No I’ve heard it a bunch. Just not since like middle school

Anonymous

#11 3d

Bro is describing his life experience and assuming everyone else applies the exact same way 😭

Anonymous

#1 3d

Ya, I have a ton of experience with leftists and their hands out. Don’t be mad because I’m answering y’all’s question. The “alt right pipeline” is ridiculous. That environment is for people who understand the connection between work and output, and religion comes with that mindset.

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Anonymous

#11 3d

bros denying the existence of a genuine propaganda channel probably bc he fell for it 💀

Anonymous

#1 3d

Ok Hasan😂

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Anonymous

#11 3d

you’re just proving their point by immediately being racist

Anonymous 3d

mb for not knowing some random ragebait twitch streamer 😭

Anonymous 3d

mb, you weren’t being racist. you were just proving that you fall for ragebait and strawmen that don’t represent actual political doctrine or common consensus. sorry for the confusion.

Anonymous

#3 3d

We got mr analyze your life over here. Let people live

Anonymous

#3 3d

What are some examples of rules/sacrifices that only affect women over men? Not asking to argue just genuinely curious!

Anonymous

#11 3d

despite what you may believe, the alt-right pipeline is a widely recognized and documented social phenomenon

Anonymous

#1 3d

Despite what you may believe, it’s not😄

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Anonymous

#11 3d

What an argument! “Nuh uh” 💀💀💀

Anonymous

#1 3d

Better than making up stuff you push as a fact😂

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Anonymous

#11 3d

I’m not making up the alt-right pipeline lol it’s a real thing, Google it Wait let me google it for you And wow here’s something from Harvard Political Review on it… https://harvardpolitics.com/alt-right-pipeline/

Anonymous

#1 2d

Every article on it is a political opinion piece. So you can use the most liberal search engine to quote one of the most liberal universities for their OPINIONS but that once again doesn’t make it a fact. All the cognitive dissonance in the world won’t save you from the reality that undriven losers steer clear of the gym which leaves conservative religious types only.

Anonymous

#11 2d

oh please i know plenty liberals and leftists that lift😭 myself included

Anonymous

#5 2d

Go ahead and tell OP they are wrong then.