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General 1w

I hate when people say suicide is selfish

Anonymous 1w

In a way it is a little, or I think it should be changed to “inconsiderate”. Because when someone kills themself, they are hurting everyone who knows them and will impact them for the rest of their lives thinking what went wrong. As Robin Williams once said (kinda ironic but RIP): “Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem”

Anonymous 1w

Yeah cuz one could say it’s selfish to expect someone to live in suffering just so you don’t have to feel sad? But also if I’m suicidal I prob dont care if it’s selfish- the pain of living would probably be stronger than any shame

Anonymous 1w

People who say that are also against medical suicide for others who are terminal.

Anonymous 1w

Why? it is though.

Anonymous 1w

So glad this app is anonymous so I can speak my mind. Suicide is the pussy way out. There’s so many resources for help and think about all your loved ones it would impact. Suicide is NOT the answer

Anonymous 1w

It’s selfish and also the easy way out.

Anonymous 1w

Suicide is absolutely horrible. when a person commits suicide, it is because they have legitimately lost all hope. There is no other reason that leads up to the decision of taking their own life other than that the situation that they are in is absolutely by no means otherwise, going to improve. It’s a horrible awful place to be.

Anonymous 1w

everyone has to suffer. ending your life makes that suffering worse for other people. don’t commit because your life WILL get better eventually, every time. choosing to end it is selfish

Anonymous 1w

It's sad that they think they don't have a way out. But I hate when they say they have nothing to live for when in reality many people would be broken and it's just passing the pain along.

Anonymous 1w

It kind of is, no? You’re burdening everyone you knew with your death that could have been prevented had you let them help

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Anonymous 1w

Suicide is just gay.

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Anonymous

#2 1w

Yes but from another view it can also be seen as only affecting everyone else in your life. You are doing something that is heavily affecting others negatively and you don’t have to deal with it cause you took the easy way out. People love you

Anonymous

#1 1w

What I said is the response to what you just said cuz if people love you why would they want you to live in suffering? No blanket statements are ever gonna effectively combat suicide because everyone’s situation is so different so this is just unhelpful

Anonymous

#2 1w

Exactly this!!

Anonymous

#1 1w

How?

Anonymous

#2 1w

I don’t think they want you to be suffering, they want you around. Ask them. They would rather you struggle to get better then have you give me. And it’s so much more complicated than that. But this is just my opinion though

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Anonymous

#3 1w

Great way of putting it honestly

Anonymous

#1 1w

But if someone commits suicide they are suffering so having me around is having me around suffering and like you said it’s way more complicated than that. Far too complicated to ever make a blanket judgement because of how complex and difficult and different every case is

Anonymous

#5 1w

yes life sucks and is extremely unfair, but there are ways to live with it. there are ways to cope

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Anonymous

#4 1w

How is it selfish?

Anonymous

#5 1w

Exactly

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Anonymous

#3 1w

What if the problem isn’t temporary cuz not all problems are temporary

Anonymous

#2 1w

Depends ultimately. We may see a problem as permanent but with enough help and support from others we can see that there is a way through the darkness. It depends on the problem but resorting to suicide prevents you from ever finding the change to get through the struggles

Anonymous

#6 1w

Normally I don’t shit on other people’s opinions bc I feel like we should be allowed to have open discussion but this is lame as shit and disrespectful.

Anonymous

#3 1w

Some people literally never do find a way through there are some problems that can never be solved- most can be improved but if it’s bad enough an improvement isn’t always manageable

Anonymous

#9 1w

Girl it’s 2026 half of us are already gay this means nothing

Anonymous

#2 1w

True, that definitely happens, but people still shouldn’t give up even when this happens. Support lines are important for those who need help to manage and live through problems that cannot be solved. This of course depends on the problem, but we all should try to accept the problem and live in defiance of it and show that it does not define who you are

Anonymous

#3 1w

I just feel like it’s unfair to say “just stick it out” about problems- incredibly painful ones- that you’ve never experienced and don’t understand the gravity of that ask is

Anonymous

#6 1w

Killing yourself takes quite a lot of courage id say tbh…

Anonymous

#2 1w

Suicide is never the answer though. You will go through a large amount of trauma in your lifetime, but you will also experience more joy and happiness throughout life. If someone kills themselves over a traumatic event, then they will never know the full depth of life and what is there ahead of us

Anonymous

#3 1w

I feel like y’all don’t have enough perspective on the world how can you make a blanket statement that you’ll experience more joy than trauma in one’s life that’s literally not true for millions of people

Anonymous

#2 1w

That is true, we all don’t have enough perspective on how anyone of us goes through life. But even when we go through struggles, no one should turn to suicide.

Anonymous

#10 1w

I’m sayin idk why people say it’s easy it’s not 😭

Anonymous

#3 1w

Well yea because we don’t have perspective of everything and how much suffering some people go through like not everyone has people that care for them not everyone has a way out of their struggle so I’d feel like it’s presumptuous for me to say smth like “there’s always a way out”

Anonymous

#2 1w

You’re doing the same thing in a way by making the excuse that sometimes it’s okay. Suicide is never the answer and I’m a psychiatrist. Some will experience awful things in their life, but there is always a way to navigate it. You may think that there are things that people can’t get around, but everything has a way of being improved. No one is saying that it will completely go away, but there are ways to live with it

Anonymous

#2 1w

You keep stating “no blanket statements will ____” but you also keep making the blanket statement of “sometimes it’s that bad”. Soldiers come back after watching their closest friends get blown apart but find ways to get help and work to navigate it. It never goes away but it is something that can be navigated

Anonymous

#12 1w

i didn’t say that sometimes it’s ok i’m sayin i don’t think i have a right to it to say there’s a way to live with it when someone is going through say actively living in a war zone

Anonymous

#12 1w

so a blanket statement is “all” not “sometimes” 😭

Anonymous

#2 1w

By definition a blanket statement covers all facets of what the statement in intended to be used for. In your case, “sometimes is that bad” covers the “sometimes it not sometimes it is”