Anonymous #1 15w

I feel like the use of the words sabotage and instigate don’t really work well togther here. Yes, they were trying to sabotage the nuclear program. Because Iran wasn’t stopping, was violating mutpike nuclear agreements,and posed a greater and greater threat. So to prevent violence, they tried to stop them from getting more powerful weapons?

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Anonymous #1 15w

On June 12th, 2 days before Israel’s strikes, the IAEA announced that Iran had violated its nuclear obligations. This was the first time this has happened in 20 years.

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Anonymous #1 15w

Iran had also more then doubled their stock of near weapons grade uranium in about 4 months (from February 2025)(reported by IAEA) In response to this report, Iran doubled down and announced they were opening a 3rd enrichment facility and installing more enhanced enrichment equipment.

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Anonymous #2 15w

The original deal was Scuttled By Netenyahu in 2018 through Trump; giving Iran the free hand to just…. Build the bomb. There was no plan, no logic, just the pure desire to conduct a regime change in Iran and cripple its nuclear capability, Period; both civilian and military. A Nuclear deal, like the one we already had; would have gone a long way towards transparency through its rigorous verification processes. Bibi ruined that; creating an environment where Iran CAN lie to the IAEA.

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Anonymous #1 15w

And this is saying NOTHING about the fact that Netenyahu is being investigated for White Collar crimes; and risks being indicted by multiple international courts the SECOND his Gov collapses. He broke the Ceasefire with Hamas and unnecessary prolonged this antagonistic war in the Middle East that destroyed most of Irans leverage BESIDES THE BOMB. Then cried victim when Iran, using the free hand he gave it, got close to building a bomb. Israel Sabotaged the deal. End of story. (times of Israel)

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Anonymous #3 14w

Did I not say that I think Israeli civilians were wronged here?? I am saying that I sympathize with them, and that this war should not have happened in the first place; and the reason why it happened was due to the Right Wing politics of Likud and Israel’s aggressive genocidal campaign. Like it or not, Israel factually took the first shot when they did not HAVE TO. This is the same Neoconservative preventative war bullshit that the US went down with Iraq.

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Anonymous #1 14w

Honestly, I wasn’t talking to you. I’m not the biggest fan of Bibi either, but the inconsistency between saying Iran is “defending itself” by sending missiles straight into family’s apartments and then calling Israel a genocidal state that’s attacking civilians when you say they do the same thing is troubling.

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Anonymous #3 14w

There is no inconsistency; it’s the same argument when people bring up civilian casualties killed by Hamas. I’m more than willing to condemn theocratic autocracies for human rights violations and civilian casualties. Read my words: Iran is not the “good guy” but to pearl clutch about civilian death while blatantly ignoring Israel’s role in getting us here, their aggression, and let’s be frank, the sheer power imbalance on the international stage is irresponsibly dense, and Dishonest.

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Anonymous #1 14w

So did Israel “have a right to defend itself” by sending missiles into civilian buildings on October 8th?

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Anonymous #1 14w

Also, “Israel’s role in getting us here”?? No one is forcing Iran to target civilians. That’s 100% their choice.

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Anonymous #3 14w

No actually, Because Gaza is Legally an Occupied Territory, not a Sovereign state. Israel Technically can intervene militarily, but it’s only legitimate if they’re saving more lives than they’re endangering. There’s no proportionality here to justify that right.

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Anonymous #3 14w

True; but it was Also Israel’s choice to Target Palestinian civilians, and that’s not stopping me from correctly identifying that this bloodshed has been permitted and allowed for by the US, my nation. You can’t just remove context from violence

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Anonymous #1 14w

You’re losing me here. Is Iran saving more lives than it’s endangering by sending missiles into residential buildings in Tel Aviv?

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Anonymous #1 14w

Not sure how Israel’s actions against Gaza are relevant when discussing Iran’s right to target civilians in Israel…

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Anonymous #3 14w

What I’m saying is that in citing right to defense, it’s a false equivalence between Two nations engaging in what could be a wider regional war, Where Israel struck first after pretending to be seeking a diplomatic solution as a feint (their first strike btw ALSO targeted civilian infrastructure in Tehran.) and Israel’s continued occupation of Palestine. Again, I think Iran is engaging in inhumane warfare, but I’m seeing a lot more condemnation on them for responding than on Israel for

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Anonymous #1 14w

Engaging to begin with.

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Anonymous #3 14w

You brought up Gaza with October 8th man, don’t back out now because you don’t like seeing your Zionism in the mirror.

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Anonymous #1 14w

What I’m hearing from you is that Iran has a right to self defense because they’re “the good guys” and Israel doesn’t have a right to self defense because they’re “the bad guys.” I don’t think that’s how international rights work. The law applies equally to all countries. Everyone has the right to defend themselves, even Israel

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Anonymous #3 14w

Yeah, but like, not preemptively. It was bad when the US did it in Iraq, and it’s bad when Israel does it in Iran.

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