Anonymous #1 1w

Voluntary disarmament is a pipe dream. Guns are more accessible than cars. Can’t put the genie back in the bottle.

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Anonymous #1 1w

It’s not this administration’s fault. Gun violence is a persistent, systemic issue in this country. No administration can fix what’s broken

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Anonymous #3 1w

I’m not saying it’s only this administration’s fault, but if any administration were to even attempt to put laws in place against gun violence, then it’s entirely possible this wouldn’t have happened.

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Anonymous #2 1w

I just wish we’d have much stricter laws restricting guns. Taking them away completely is out of the question, but these tragedies are entirely preventable

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Anonymous #3 1w

So yes we can, we’ve done it before, and it worked

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Anonymous #1 1w

The gun is only a tool. It is the person behind it who inflicts the damage and harm.

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So tell me why this is just an America issue and no one else in the world has this issue?

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Anonymous #13 1w

Then, again, why is this only an issue for America? Why are we the only country that has this amount of gun deaths

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I apologize for saying gun violence, I simply meant mass shootings. I mistyped when I said that. But yes, we are the only country with the amount of MASS SHOOTINGS that we have

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Anonymous #1 1w

Bring back psych wards and mental institutions. Those who are doing this are deranged. There are usually loads of warning signs in the person before but we are so worried about “stepping on other’s toes” by saying there is something wrong with them. We would be better off reopening these wards.

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Anonymous #13 1w

Hey so actually, those are still a thing. They never stopped being a thing, and there are going to be those kinds of people in every single country, the problem is that those people are being GIVEN guns LEGALLY. We need more restrictions and, yes, we can’t stop gun violence completely, but we can help make sure that the mass shootings are few and far between. Look at Australia. They just had their second mass shooting of the CENTURY and they are saying they need more restrictions on guns.

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Anonymous #13 1w

This is so dystopian and the fact that people like you are trying to normalize it, makes it so much worse. These are tragedies that are completely preventable and SOMEONE needs to do something about it. I don’t care who it is, but the fact that you’re trying to normalize a tragedy such as this one is disturbing.

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Anonymous #1 1w

I see that opinion, but like I said, they will ALWAYS find a way to get what they want, and no gun control would stop that. Also calling somebody mentally ill now has SUCH a stigma against it. I’m not talking about sending them away for a week and reintegration into society I mean they need to stay in those hospitals.

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Anonymous #13 1w

So tell me why no other countries have this problem of mass shootings. Why don’t you look at the statistics and tell me? It’s not an opinion, it’s been put in practice and proven to be successful and people like you still try to claim it doesn’t work!

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Anonymous #3 1w

it’s been that way for decades and banning guns would actually make it worse because criminals will still find a way to get guns and nobody would be able to defend themselves

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Anonymous #1 1w

Hey, so when it comes to Institutions… I just got done writing an 11+ page paper on the subject for my Public Administration course. Very eye opening. Yes, technically they’re still a thing, HOWEVER, they’re a thing only to just shy of being completely extinct. Between 1950 and 2023, the number of psychiatric bed capacity plummeted from 338.9 to just 10.8 per every 100,000 individuals. Plus, they tend to fill up with incarcerated before the general public.

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Anonymous orange_ogre35 1w

Missouri and Hawaii use their facilities almost exclusively for state-committed people. Once Chlorpromazine was developed in 1954, plus the civil rights movements, hospitals started going away. And the government basically shifted responsibility, without anything else in place since people could just be given drugs.

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Anonymous orange_ogre35 1w

And that’s not even getting into JFK in 1963 shifting to community outpatient centers with the Community Mental Health Act, further shifting the idea of hospitals and inpatient services. One in 5 adults suffer from Mental Illness of some fashion, and that number continues to rise with not a lot else being done.

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Anonymous #1 1w

They need to be normalized. Two models do actually, greater collaborative care and institutions. They have stigma because people that are against them give them stigma. There is a massive treatment shortage in this country. The “deinstitutionalization movement” had far, far greater consequences than intended. The idea to just Give them drugs, let them go, and that’ll work, doesn’t always work… rarely does it work. It needs to be normalized.

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Anonymous orange_ogre35 1w

I agree treatment should be normalized, but that was not the point of my comment in the slightest. Treatment won’t change the problem with gun violence we have in America, and thinking that it will is extremely narrow minded. Mass shootings should never be normalized.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Yes, gun violence should never become simply normalized. I thought you were talking about institutions and inpatient treatment, so my apologies for not making that clear. But, I don’t agree with the statement “Treatment won’t change the problem with gun violence”, simply because I don’t have numbers and I don’t think anyone does, to find the correlation of how many had mental health issues that engaged in mass gun violence. I can, however think of at least three that it may have played part.

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Anonymous orange_ogre35 1w

It one hundred percent played a part, and that’s why I do advocate for mental health and the treatment of mental health, however putting the blame all on mental health is just not fair. I shouldn’t have said that treating mental health won’t help, because I doubt that’s true, but it definitely won’t fix it completely. That’s why we need more laws restricting gun access.

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Anonymous orange_ogre35 1w

But yes, one thing that NEVER needs to happen is the normalization of gun violence and especially mass gun violence in the country. Unfortunately it’s a fine slop, because to a point it already is, with the 2A crowd, but the minute we fully normalize it, is when we fall off the plateau. It’s a tricky, incredibly tough slope to climb without sliding backwards.

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Anonymous #1 1w

Why are people with known mental health issues LEGALLY allowed to purchase firearms? We need to help people with mental health issues, but we also need to restrict firearm access. It’s not a black and white issue

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Anonymous #1 1w

I agree, and I’m all for it. Unfortunately, there’s a large, large amount of pushback on any form of gun control and folks thinking that they have absolute freedoms when it comes to owning firearms that serve absolutely no purpose other than to kill. Not hunt, mass kill… So there’s a fine, fine line when it comes to that as well…

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Anonymous #1 1w

That’s very true. It’s really not. That’s the tricky part of it all, too.

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yeah man the president of the United States has no power and can’t change anything

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Anonymous #1 1w

How do you explain the Australia shooting? Gun control only affects law abiding people.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Idk man, plenty of other countries put their genies back in the bottle and gun crimes went down… js

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Anonymous #20 1w

So we encourage them to go on stabbing sprees instead? Notice how those have increased globally in recent years? There is no good solution for this issue when the world is the problem. We fight for literal scraps just to survive, work well beyond our physical and mental capacities, and get paid like dirt. …And people wonder what’s wrong with the world…

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Anonymous #3 1w

In a utilitarian perspective I think it’s a trade-off. No amount of laws will ever eliminate murder from the world but we can try our best to make it harder to murder. I would be interested to see the stats but I would hypothesize that mass causality incidents involving a knife have significantly less mortality rates than mass shooting. I agree with everything after that though. The middle class is dying and I’m sure things will only get worse until oligarchs are put in their place.

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Anonymous #2 1w

Crazy because they’ve done it in plenty of countries with less power and worse economies. That being said majority of leftists don’t want this. I’m a gun owner. That doesn’t chant the fact we need gun control

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Anonymous #3 1w

….u can’t be comparing stabbing to a shooting. Stabbing is much easier to stop when you’re in actual situation, more likely to survive. And there’s no “mass standings”

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Anonymous #21 1w

at the same time tho i bet being stabbed hurts a lot more than being shot

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Anonymous #17 1w

both deaths are a tragedy. at the same time the world is forgetting the man who stopped the Bondi Beach shooting here in the US because it goes against the Israeli agenda

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Anonymous #1 1w

RI has some of the strictest gun laws in the country but it still happened… if you’re gonna shoot up a school why would u care that you’re getting the guns legally…

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Anonymous #1 1w

and you are the problem, blaming the government instead of the people who are murdering other people. people die by knife’s everyday too, and we just call those people sick

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Anonymous #2 1w

Dog what guns are not more accessible than cars. They are a problem in the wrong hands but they aren’t sitting around in the open everywhere

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Anonymous your_man 1w

Bondi Beach was in Australia

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Anonymous #16 1w

“Which has been doing a lot of things thag are pushing towards authoritarianism” Isn’t that why gun thumpers say they should own guns - to stop authoritarianism? But now they’re nowhere to be found (except shooting up schools, of course)

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Anonymous #7 1w

Look, if you want to put your trust in this neofascist government, then go ahead, but don’t expect the rest of us to jump on the train with you. Again, white supremacist are incels are doing the shootings. It’s gotten so bad that they want to include gang shootings in the statistics to offset the numbers. Gun violence is on the decline, but mass shootings will continue to happen because of the white inferiority complex.

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Anonymous #12 1w

theyre saying we’re forgetting it in the us, not that it happened here

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Anonymous #13 1w

ur a dumbass lmfao the us has the most mass shootings because of how easy it is to access guns in the country

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Anonymous #13 1w

this is genuinely insane to say. we have psych wards and mental institutions already….are you suggesting to bring back inhumane ASYLUMS?? the places where people were literally lobotomized???? the point is, if guns weren’t so easily accessible, so many mass shootings wouldn’t be happening. chances are if gun laws are stricter, some adolescent with homicidal fantasies wouldn’t be able to get one so easily and probably wouldn’t even know where to get one

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Anonymous #23 1w

Legal gun feed the illegal gun market. If you destroy the supply, the acquiring a gun is significantly harder AND more expensive, even illegally. In its current state, it doesn’t matter what RI laws around guns are when you can just drive in from a different state with anything you want. The change needs to happen at the federal level.

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Anonymous #1 1w

It’s not gun control it’s the fact Israel has control over the administration

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Anonymous #20 1w

Right but just banning guns doesn’t stop the “supply” manufacturers will still make guns to sell in countries like Latin America where they will be trafficked, or just sell them illegally to arms dealers

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Anonymous #16 1w

Well two things can be true at the same time. While it’s true that guns are important for defense against a fascist government, it’s also important to limit who can get guns. I think in a perfect world, no one needs guns, but that’s just not possible. I don’t think we should completely disarm America, but we absolutely need much stricter laws on gun control

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Anonymous #1 1w

If that’s what you want, then by all means go for it, but I’m still going to advocate for abolishing the NFA and wider access to weapons. I do agree we should limit access to those that shouldn’t. If the federal government repealed NFA, GCA OF 1968, and others, then I would be open to mandatory psych evaluations every 3-6 months, background checks, training, proper storage, and other measures. Ironically, Reagan was the biggest proponent for gun control.

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Anonymous #19 1w

How do you explain that Australias shooting was the first in decades when they’re a daily occurrence in America? It couldn’t possibly be gun control, could it?

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Anonymous #12 1w

You’re right, more guns will somehow result in less shootings

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Anonymous #16 1w

Lemme guess, you think leftists wanna take all your guns away?

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Anonymous #23 1w

It still disrupts the supply. You CAN illegally buy a gun in the UK despite them being banned (not really technically “banned”). The reason you don’t see them represented in crimes much is because the disruption to the supply chain made it so difficult to get a firearm it became infeasible for criminals to acquire one. People who need guns to commit crimes aren’t usually ready to spend more money buying the tool for the job than they would make on the job outside of exigent circumstances.

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Anonymous #23 1w

Also, I don’t think anyone is advocating for an outright ban. I’m not and I wouldn’t necessarily. But more restrictions are clearly and dearly needed.

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Anonymous #16 1w

We literally have a neofascist government right now. Yet you idiots are doing nothing to stop it - some are actively encouraging it

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Anonymous #7 1w

Ok buddy. Time to go touch grass

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Anonymous #7 1w

What are u doing about it?

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