Anonymous #2 27w

PETA sucks

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Anonymous #3 27w

Humans also take up so much space that even if we arent actively killing natural predators, they dont have the numbers needed to keep prey populations in check in some areas. Lack of population control means things like human/deer accidents/deaths and worsening disease in prey populations (and potential overgrazing, which can cause mass starvation). Look up CWD (chronic wasting disease), its horrific when diseases are allowed to spread across dense, large populations.

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that’s why hunting seasons exist though. part of the reasoning for hunting IS population control.

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So you eat meat, and youre still… anti meat? I dont even like veganism but this is a very weird stance. Humans eat meat, and were either gonna get it from farmed animals or hunted animals. Theres no such thing as a free lunch, lol, it comes with being a heterotroph. If we could eat rocks, itd be great, but unfortunately we have to eat living organisms to survive. And even eating fruits and veggies means taking land away from animals. Its always gonna be a give and take

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We have hunting laws for a reason. Poaching an animal is stupid, but hunting laws are in place for that reason. The laws are (when done responsibly) for specific reasons and within specified limits. You need permits and tags to hunt, and may only take so many animals. Im not sure what you think hunting is

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Girl its called an explanation, im sorry reading is such a chore for you. This is starting to feel like trolling because your goalpost and point has changed like five times

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If you hate how meat is harvested and dislike those who harvest it, stop eating meat. You cant hate the hands that feed you, lol

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you need more than paragraphs, you need a book.. or a few

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your point is meaningless

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it won’t be if you keep thinking the way you are lol

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i already have ☺️ not like you’re paying attention to or reading #3’s points so why should i try?

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Anonymous #4 27w

I fear we are arguing with a koala

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Anonymous #3 27w

definitely something like that lol

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no i still think it’s you! but wow it looks like you can be observational! i did make a point about hunting seasons existing to prevent over hunting/population control! maybe if you’d analyze a little further you could connect the dots that the statement i made about that is in fact a point!!

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Because you rambled incoherently after making a random inflammatory statement

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Also damn 8 hours later and you came back with “and another thing” lol

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Whatever makes you feel better little buddy

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Anonymous #7 27w

A)what’s league and legends. B) what year is it?

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It's "not necessary" because of unethical factory farming bud.

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Anonymous OP 27w

Genuinely what does what year it is have anything to do with it? Are you implying that buying meat at the store where the animals have been cruelty treated make me less of a bitch?

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Anonymous #7 27w

It’s the fact it’s 2026 and your idea of peak masculinity is going out in the woods and shooting an animal that can hardly fight back. Actually insane. Not even a peta vegan but that’s dumb as hell.

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Anonymous #7 27w

Not once have I ever talked about factory farms in this comment section or remotely supported them. Follow the thread.

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Anonymous OP 27w

So since it’s the big 2026 (and somehow that matters) please tell me what else I should be doing that is so much better than hunting and providing. Should I spend my time painting my nails? Maybe playing tennis? How about scrolling endlessly on TikTok? Please enlighten me.

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Anonymous #7 27w

Calling it ‘providing’ doesn’t magically make it meaningful. You can dress anything up with better wording

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Anonymous OP 27w

Please, just answer what you think I should be doing instead. Especially in the food department. Because with the argument you’re presenting right now, I’ll need to develop photosynthesis before dinner.

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Anonymous #7 27w

You’ve asked for ‘alternatives’ twice now instead of responding to the point. That’s not an argument.

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Anonymous OP 27w

“It’s X year so we can’t do XYZ” isn’t an argument either. So tell me, what should I do instead? Or should I just assume that your position has no root in logic and you just blindly hate something that’s as old as humanity and is still a viable way to provide for your family?

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Anonymous OP 27w

Because you can’t manage to articulate an alternative.

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Anonymous #7 27w

You’ve switched from ‘masculine’ to ‘it’s old’ to ‘it provides.’ None of those actually defend your original point

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Anonymous #7 27w

If your idea of ‘peak masculinity’ depends on shooting something that can’t fight back, that’s exactly why people question it

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Anonymous OP 27w

Please tell us though what should one do to get meat if they aren't hunting for it. What are you saying is the “right” thing to do?

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Anonymous #7 27w

Feels like you’re stacking different arguments because none of them hold on their own

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Anonymous OP 27w

Feels like you just cant answer how I should obtain meat.

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Anonymous OP 27w

Hunting has been a tradition passed on by men for thousands and thousands of years to provide for their family. It takes knowledge, skill, and patience. And if you couldn’t or wouldn’t do it (you), you would starve. I’m absolutely not backing down off the stance that it is one of the most masculine activities.

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Anonymous OP 27w

I’d attack your argument if you ever provided one. You still have yet to provide a better solution. It seems like you’re implying we shouldn’t hunt bc we have technology but then you also don’t like farm bred animals. Should we not read because we have computers now…? Genuinely what is your position other than a limp attempt to bash something you don’t understand?

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Anonymous #7 27w

You keep explaining why hunting exists and how to get meat. You still haven’t explained why it’s ‘peak masculinity.’ That’s the only point I’m interested in here.

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Anonymous OP 27w

FORGET HIM TELL ME WHERE I SHOULD GET MY MEATTTT

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Anonymous OP 27w

I'm willing to hear you out too but I gotta know what your POV is on the subject because unless you give me a more ethical way to provide meat how am I supposed to change my mind.

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Anonymous #5 27w

Hold tight. Let him respond

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Anonymous #5 27w

Forget it. If you’re asking ethically: smaller-scale, pasture-raised/regenerative farms or local sourcing with higher animal welfare standards. That’s a separate conversation though

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Anonymous #5 27w

That’s really the only place you should get your meat

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Anonymous OP 27w

Why do you think killing an animal raised in a farm is more ethical than an animal in the wild? Genuinely asking.

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Anonymous OP 27w

I’ve explained it multiple times now. Either you don’t want it to be true so you can’t acknowledge it or you just genuinely can’t read.

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Anonymous #7 27w

You absolutely haven’t explained it. Thats the problem. All you’ve done is talk about how it’s a tradition, done for thousands of years and all this other nonsense. Absolutely nothing about how that makes it “peak masculinity”

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Anonymous #7 27w

If it’s any consolation, you might have a side career writing liberal fan fiction because you seem to know more about it than most liberals

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Anonymous OP 27w

You might actually be the dumbest bimbo I’ve ever had the displeasure of talking to online.

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Anonymous #7 27w

What is masculinity to you and why is hunting the peak of it. It’s not that hard chief. Absolutely not interested in convincing you one way or the other about this topic. You’re part of a dying breed anyway.

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Anonymous OP 27w

I’m not going to keep repeating myself. If you decide you can read at some point you can go back and look at what I’ve already said. As far as being a dying breed, that’s laughable. Gen Z is shaping up to be significantly more conservative than their parents. Every day more people are learning hunting and homesteading and rejecting the androgynous dystopian hellscape future people like you have to offer. And I’m helping that every chance I get by teaching everyone I can how to shoot and hunt.

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Anonymous OP 27w

So when you’re old and alone and unable to pay the stupid prices for processed grocery slop, my freezers will be filled with meat for myself and my family to eat. And when that time comes, we will see who’s the little bitch.

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Anonymous #7 27w

This might be the most disappointing response you could have possibly given. Not sure why I expected more. My mistake.

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I’m aware. I’m an open advocate for overhauling the meat industry to make it more sustainable, regenerative, and environmentally friendly. Obviously, the whole world would be better if we ate less meat, but I know when to pick my battles. I enjoy food.

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Don’t agree with this viewpoint based on their data and projections I’ve propagated but I respect it as a far better alternative than what’s currently present.

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Anonymous OP 27w

The not their*

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Anonymous OP 27w

Because if you’re opposed to hunting for food but fine with factory farming you have very contradictory morals

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It’s not weird. Men have been hunters and providers and women have been gatherers and homemakers for thousands of years. Each sex complimented the other and made for an efficient family unit. Hunting has always been a masculine activity and it will continue to be one. The patriarchy has been around for so long because it worked. And honestly, with how fast society has declined with its attempted uprooting we really need it back in full force with strong male family influence and leadership.

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Anonymous OP 27w

Brochacho you never explained why killing a farm animal is more ethical than killing a hunted one.

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Anonymous OP 27w

Saying someone is a dying breed is absolutely fucking wild - a WOMAN who hunts 🩵🦌

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Anonymous #6 27w

You can hunt for fun while still providing for your family.

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Anonymous #13 27w

16% of the U.S. hunted in the 80s. In 2026 that number is closer to 4-5%. That’s quite literally the definition of a dying breed.

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Just ignore 7. I’m done trying to reason with him.

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Anonymous OP 27w

You: blindly attacks something you disagree with. Me: gives a reasonable take and repeatedly explains it. You: “I’m done trying to reason with him” You haven’t reasoned once this entire time. That’s the problem. All emotion, no reason.

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Anonymous #7 27w

You’re literally describing yourself lmao. Holy shit you’re actually one of the dumbest right wingers I’ve ever seen and it isn’t close. How much would it cost to get your ass out on the campaign trail for republicans leading up to the midterms? Name your price because I’ll pay it.

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Ok so let me get this straight - advocating for strong male roll models in home, school, and leadership, wanting single a income to be viable for supporting a family, pushing for men to be supporters and protectors, and generally disagreeing with 3rd wave feminism makes me the same as a slave owner and/or a degenerate rapist? I think you might need to visit grippy sock jail. The loss of masculinity and patriarchal values has absolutely crushed the west.

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Oh no, I know exactly what I’m advocating for, you just don’t like that I’m advocating for it. Feminism has been a complete and utter failure, and western nations have seen a steep decline because of it. Just today they released footage of the last assassination attempt where the female officers ran and male officers drew their weapons and advanced towards the gun fire. Roles were designated because those who came before learned what each sex was good at and had them do that.

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Being a home maker and raising children isn’t oppression, it’s essential for a healthy society. I implore you to research mouse utopia. Advocating for the destruction of the patriarchy and everything else that comes with dismantling what you believe is oppression is truly what’s dangerous.

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And to tie that back into hunting, providing for the family especially with food is a man’s responsibility, and it shouldn’t be taken lightly.

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As for my comments being upvoted, it’s because I’m explaining something others find to be true, despite you two not being able to accept that. Society is at a point where it can go two directions, liberalism will destroy birth rates and affordability so much that there will eventually be no one to maintain the infrastructure men built, or we will right ourselves and return to the societal and family roles that we are hardwired for and that have always worked in order to continue western society.

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Myself and many others have just gotten to the point where instead of trying to prove that we aren’t any of the idiotic diluted names you call us, we just agree and move on doing what we need to in order to secure the future of those we care about (by providing food from hunting). In a generation or two my horrible, disgusting way of thinking will have taken back the reigns of the west, and yours will have perished. Deus vult, princess.

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Anonymous #7 27w

“Deus vult” holy larp get outta here w that 2017 shit

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The number of upvotes he’s getting as a proportion of people in this group represents how many people actually believe his propaganda. His views are not gaining steam like he claims. Just ignore him.

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Sorry for just now jumping back into this. I went on a reading/education spree so I don’t end up a reject hack like 7.

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More people agree with you than will ever agree with him. Remember that.

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His worldview is only appealing to rural hicks with 3rd grade educations for a reason.

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