
yeah ofc. im against illegal immigration, but ice is detaining any and everyone, not following the constitution. they lack proper training so they abuse and kill ppl who get in their way. they damage property and don't return personal belongings after citizens/legal immigrants are released. when they're hired, there is no background check, no resumes, no drug testing, they've already hired a few Proud Boys (jan 6 attackers).
Thanks for letting me know that kicking a taillight is punishable by summary execution, after which an agent will clap, another one will tell a witness “boohoo,” and a third will express his excitement at how similar the situation was to call of duty!! Remind me to never accidentally step on your toes. Summary execution would be justified, after all
don’t bring a UNREGISTERED firearm to a protest, basic gun safety 101. you want the second amendment in ur favor so bad but can’t handle it. Also if you cause damage to an agency’s car i hope something happens to you. This isn’t even a left v right debate it’s basic common sense btw!!
It’s illegal to carry a firearm at a protest I believe. Also no good firearm owner would be kicking law enforcement vehicles and getting into aggressive confrontations while armed whic I also believe is illegal. Research the law before you spread misinformation and sound like an idiot
Well it’s not that simple. Depends on state, city, location etc. and kicking law enforcement vehicles is NOT the first amendment 🤦. I’m not defending what happened to him, I do think his could have been avoided and those agents should no longer be agents. But also he wasn’t an angel that was randomly shot walking down the street
And yea there’s a difference between my opinion in the law. But there’s pretty clear protocols about getting into conflict with law enforcement while armed. The day that he was attacking ice vehicles while armed makes him a threat, and doing so while carrying a gun elevates the charges you could face. It’s very easy to analyze things when you have multiple video angles and information after the fact. I don’t think his death was necessary but there were multiple things both he and the ice agents
no amount of kicking vehicles while armed warrants being legitimately filled with bullets while disarmed and held down. that is not how the law is carried out in this country. supposed federal agents should have more emotional restraint than the average citizen and should be held to a higher standard because of the training that they should have.
ok so it took down the comment with links for some reason but there's a fox article titled: ICE shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis raises 2nd Amendment questions regarding CPLs and a abc one called: 2nd Amendment backlash follows portrayal of Alex Pretti by some Trump administration officials
ah yes, because kicking out a tail light deserves the punishment of execution in the street. i would have had no issue had they taken the normal legal action for destruction of property. but instead they murdered an unarmed man, nothing more to say. your morals are nonexistent in your defense of a disgusting misuse of power.
What with this jumping to conclusions. He literally said “he shouldn’t have been killed”. No one is saying that he deserves what happened for kicking taillights, but it’s speaks to his character and mental state. Clearly violent, and has had at least two encounters with ice and I’m willing to bet more. They tried to subdue him, he resisted and when they tried to take his gun he reached for it, his gun went off and the officers fired. Stop acting like they walked up and executed him on the spot
thank you #9, again he shouldn’t have been killed. But even with a “registered/unregistered” firearm it shouldn’t have been brought to a protest. And for it to be fired as well alex’s mental state wasnt safe to be handling that. Just to reiterate he wasn’t killed out of random. Many run ins with ice and plenty of altercations lead to this sucks to say.
Exactly. His death is tragic and one could say unnecessary, but he wasn’t just an innocent bystander. I just watched more video of it what appears to have happened was the ice agent removed his firearm and began running away and it discharged. I think he accidentally pulled the trigger but it was a sig 226 which if you know the p320 has had negligent discharge issues but is totally possible for another sig model as it looked like Alex had modified his. But after his firearm was taken,
No actually I watched many angles. They begin yelling gun when they spot his, agent removes it and begins running away when he reaches back for an empty holster, BUT THEY DONT KNOW THATS HIS ONLY FIREARM. His firearm then goes off in the agents hand which could have been an accidental trigger pull or like I said, it was a sig 226 which was modified based on the photo I’ve seen of it, and other sig model the p320 have had recorded issues of discharging without the trigger being pulled.
People are saying premeditated because of his previous encounter which I don’t believe. But like I was saying they’re all yelling gun which is what any Leo does, his is removed but he then reaches back to his holster, they don’t know if he has another weapon, people do carry a backup piece. He wasn’t detained because he was actively fighting, and his gun dishcharged. If you want to go to dms I’m happy to explain more clearly it’s hard with character limit on threads
i'm not over simplifying it at all, i believe that trained law enforcement officers should not be legitimately filling citizens with bullets in the streets because they are incapable of making an arrest. that is my opinion based on my morals, i'm done talking to people who are downplaying federal officers killing citizens. have a good one.
“You’re explaining too much so I don’t want to talk to you anymore”. You think you have it all figured out and I feel bad for idiots like you. Ik you’re gonna read this and not reply but whatever. Law enforcement has the right to use deadly force when a threat is suspected. In this specific scenario maybe deadly force wasn’t warranted but This is ONE case. ONE. Take a step out of your echo chamber for one fucking second my god ppl like you are insufferable
ok but in renee good's scenario, the agent wasnt punished in any way. and then it happened again to alex pretti. in fact, 36 people have died, 3 more have been shot but not killed, and many have gone missing. and these clearly untrained agents have been using unnecessary force on tons of people.
the agent was hit by renee’s car, had internal injuries. As well obama was deporting way more than trump, as well more immigrants were killed but you won’t signify that. I would like to see you have someone jumping on your car, shouting insults at you, throwing things as your driving and you keep a level head. Peaceful protests aren’t a thing the left is capable of doing