Anonymous #8 10w

Travelling is precisely why I know this nation is incredibly faulty and not the glorified, perfect little place it propagandises itself as.

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Anonymous #8 10w

I’ve traveled outside the country, still what OP said

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Anonymous #12 10w

Like what

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Anonymous #8 10w

I have travelled outside the country…op is still correct…supporting a racist rapist child predator is problematic

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Anonymous #12 10w

What exactly do you propose we do Citizens are shot at rallies Protests are no longer peaceful because protesters get shot Anything that’s spoken out about trump is shut down by boot licking ass kissing maggats It’s kind of hard to change anything when laws are being made that make it nearly impossible to be able to change the govt…and also slowly working towards taking women’s rights to vote away

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Anonymous #8 10w

Nah man red or blue don’t mean shit. Don’t vote the way they want you to, how you’re expected to. Doesn’t matter really. Just vote for the third party/ candidate… even if they got a boot on their head a la Vermin Supreme the vote demands something different than the norm. Cus then it’s just the same shit n nothing ever changes… just gets worse.

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Anonymous #20 10w

If you lean one way or the other it's whatever, but thinking one side is better than another is what is gonna divide this country, ITS OKAY TO HAVE YOUR OWN OPINIONS THAT DIFFER FROM THE MASSES

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Anonymous #20 10w

It’s crazy to say this when one side has been openly supporting removing constitutional precedents and denies the 2020 election to this day

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Anonymous #10 10w

It’s crazy how you let that distract you from the fact that both sides are not only complacent but directly culpable for mass amounts of harm. Stop playing by broken set of rules, and reject the damn paradigm already.

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Anonymous #10 10w

You missed my point, too many people follow large beliefs blindly mainly because of the masses. I'm just tryna say people should get their own beliefs based on what they think instead of getting into the group think mentality where it's us vs them, which divides people. I feel that if more people were true to what they believe instead of trying to fit in with people, that would make them more of an American than following the masses.

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Anonymous #22 10w

And those white men you are citing right now OWNED SLAVES WHILE WRITING THE WORDS “created equal”. Stop dickriding those fucking hypocritical bigots.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Dawg what

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Anonymous #6 10w

#22 a brain dead fn 💀

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Anonymous #23 10w

Thanks for reiterating exactly what tf I just said

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Anonymous #21 10w

It’s time to grow up lil bro, If we reject every historical figure because they held views that were common in their era, there'd be almost no one left to study or respect. Judge them honestly, History isn't all-or-nothing, history isn't a Marvel movie where everyone's either a hero or a villain. They deserved condemnation for owning slaves, and they deserve credit for principles that later generations used to destroy slavery. Adults can hold both thoughts at once.

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Anonymous #24 10w

No in fact

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Anonymous #22 10w

"Destroy slavery" is hilarious. Slavery did not get abolished in the 13th amendment. It got relocated to the prison industrial complex. Did you miss the exception clause??? Colonialism didn't just happen in the past. It stratified our social hierarchy and left lasting patterns of disparity and harm. That ripple is called coloniality and America's greatest lie is that it isn't real. Coloniality runs on denial. Growing up is understanding that the US is fundamentally flawed.

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Anonymous #22 10w

If you refuse to accept history, you are doomed to repeat it. And here you are acting as a shining token of American exceptionalism. It sounds to me like you are the one who can't handle honesty.

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Anonymous #22 10w

When someone says "all men are created equal" while actively enslaving people for economic prosperity, that means their motivations were corrupt. Do you understand?

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Anonymous #22 10w

The founders fathers literally invented "freedom for me but not for thee" in this country but you are still such a bootlicker that you think it doesn't matter because you see them as America's creators. I'm begging you to educate yourself.

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Anonymous #22 10w

This is like saying Trump deserves credit for contributing "good" things to this country and condemnation for all the "bad" things as if good and bad aren't subjective. Let's look at actual measurable harm instead of just vibes shall we?

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Anonymous #22 10w

The 1994 Crime Bill, championed by Biden and signed by Clinton, accelerated mass incarceration, disproportionately affecting Black Americans, by expanding mandatory minimums, funding prison construction, and incentivizing states to toughen sentencing. Democratic-led cities and states have often maintained aggressive policing and prosecution frameworks even as the party rhetorically embraced reform. Substantive federal reform has repeatedly stalled under Democratic control.

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Anonymous #22 10w

The US incarcerates more people per capita than any country on earth. More than Russia, more than China. Mass incarceration functions as a parallel economy of social control, disproportionately targeting Black and poor communities. Countries that do this at this scale are usually not considered free societies in any serious sense.

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Anonymous #22 10w

Both sides are deeply complicit in harm because both sides run on the same imperialist engine. And if you think any of this is coincidental, you are in for a rude awakening. It's time for YOU to grow up.

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Anonymous #20 10w

That's great in theory and you have the right idea but unfortunately it's not as simple as that. We live under late stage colonial capitalism. This system requires hyper individualism which creates isolation and ultimately loneliness. This is why people cling so desperately to archetypes that allow them to fit into a box. People don't just do things. They act on structural incentives. You cannot ask anything to change without identifying and changing incentives, like ending profit motive!

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Anonymous #20 10w

If you want people to actually come together, you have to let go of "every man for himself" in its entirety. Indigenous societies have held knowledge on how to self govern functioning fair societies, and you know what the key is? Matricentric social structure centered around life, creation, and reciprocity rather than hierarchy, power, and control.

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Anonymous #20 10w

You want to eliminate us vs them thinking? Then it's time to listen to the most deeply marginalized people on this earth. It's time to stop giving your power to borders and bureaucracies. They have been warning of all this harm for centuries. The separation of life is the greatest illusion we experience. Until we all realize this, we will live in separate nations as if divided.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Nothing is distracting me. Why is it unreasonable to acknowledge one side does objectively more harm than the other?

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Anonymous arachne 10w

We can only hope that happens :)

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Anonymous #19 10w

You need psychological support.

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Anonymous your_man 10w

Former trump supporter 😂😂😂 Jesus we’ve been saying this since 2016

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Anonymous gonzo 10w

Better than having a rapist in office? What does this post even mean

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Anonymous #26 10w

No nooo, he’s a “former” Trump supporter cuz he supported him back in 2016, mind you he still supports him, but he did back then too!

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Anonymous arachne 10w

It’s not about what you aren’t doing, it’s about what you ARE doing without realizing it. Stop playing by broken rules made by people who never intended to follow them. Reject this paradigm. The only mistake you are making is giving up your free will to us vs them thinking. The problem is much much much bigger than Trump and people are too afraid to acknowledge that.

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Anonymous #26 10w

So you care about a rapist taking office but you don’t care that our entire country was founded by bigots? Stop giving this nation the benefit of the doubt. Trump is not the problem. America is.

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Anonymous gonzo 10w

It makes sense for the time being to vote in at the very least people that respect the constitution. If those voted in find that the majority of constituents don’t want what they are doing the logical decision is to shift gears and try to be a better representative. Why do yall act like it’s inevitable for corruption to win? It’s actually up to us entirely

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Anonymous #26 10w

It means when the blue is in office we still need to criticize them and not accept their policies blindly. Blue politicians are also corrupt, less so, but still corrupt all the same.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Trump is definitely a big part of the problem. He is the direct cause for so much of the nations divide.

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Anonymous #28 10w

Bruh. Zoom out. America has existed much longer than our lifetimes.

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Anonymous #28 10w

This is perfect evidence for why we need to reject this system outright!!! How do you state the partisan corruption that is foundational to this country and your conclusion America is not the problem??

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Anonymous #21 10w

The system is corrupt but you cannot deny that trump has played a huge role in that

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Anonymous #28 10w

Trump exploited what was already there. Stop defending america.

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Anonymous #28 10w

Trump did not ruin america. He shined light onto the evil that it already was since the very beginning. What part about our violent foundation do you not understand? Mfs want to act like being MAGA is unamerican NO homie it’s the most traditionally american you can get and it’s the reason america needs to go.

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Anonymous #21 10w

I did not claim that he ruined America. He did however encourage thousands upon thousands of people to become more and more hateful.

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Anonymous #21 10w

I do not think America was good before trump. I do not think he ruined America. But I do see how he has changed so many people I know.

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Anonymous #21 10w

If you take this to be a defense of America, then that’s on you.

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Anonymous #3 10w

Correct…

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Anonymous #28 10w

Statistically speaking race became a larger issue under Obama than it did under Trump

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Anonymous #29 10w

Though Trump hasn’t done anything to fix it

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Anonymous #21 10w

Bro just rambled on ab jack, u hella off topic son, fully convinced you didn’t even read/comprehend my reply. 💀

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Anonymous #22 10w

“ab jack” lol you cited the founders like they hold inherent credibility, and when I pointed out the many ways in which that notion ultimately defeats itself, you deflected. You can just admit you learned US history from the US and aren’t ready to confront the difficult truth. What is and isn’t American ideology is as contradictory as the Bible. American ideology disagrees with itself. It’s the same circular logic as citing the bible as evidence of God.

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Anonymous #22 10w

Lincoln said “nah it’s not slavery, it’s just punishment for crime”

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Anonymous #21 10w

One was a horrible crime committed around the world by virtually ever civilization since the dawn of time and the other is repaying your debt to society for breaking the laws set by that society.

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Anonymous #21 10w

I know logic is hard for y’all so I made sure to spell it out

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Anonymous #21 10w

Bro all I said was they didn’t care for a multiple party system and you can condemn them for the wrong they did but acknowledge the right they did as well. What are you talking about 💀 you didn’t respond to any of my points with a proper counter argument, rather rambled on ab sum fake woke nonsense, grow up kid

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Anonymous #29 10w

Your argument assumes “crime” is a neutral, pre-existing category that slavery just happens to punish. It’s not. Right after the 13th Amendment passed, southern states wrote Black codes and vagrancy laws specifically to criminalize freed Black people for things like “loitering” or being unemployed. That’s not coincidence, that’s engineering.

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Anonymous #29 10w

So the “debt to society” framing is circular. Society defines the crime, then profits off the labor of whoever it decides is a criminal. That’s literally the diagram you posted: lobby against reform, more prison labor, more profit, repeat. The system isn’t punishing pre-existing crime, it’s manufacturing criminals to keep the labor pipeline running.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Also worth pointing out: the amendment doesn’t say “slavery is different from punishment.” It says slavery is banned “except as punishment for crime.” That’s not a moral distinction, it’s a legal carve-out. It was written that way on purpose so the practice could continue under a new label. Lincoln calling it “punishment” doesn’t make it not-slavery, it just tells you what loophole they used.

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Anonymous #10 10w

It’s crazy to say this when Democrats suppressed free speech from 2020-2024 and worked with tech companies to spy on people, ruin careers, and control what people could or could not see. Not to mention repressing religious freedom, the 2nd amendment, and flooding with people who would wipe their ass with the constitution without a second thought

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Anonymous #29 10w

Who is “y’all”? You don’t know who I am.

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Anonymous #10 10w

You’re correct. Democrats do vastly more harm to the constitution than any other party. I’m glad you can see that.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Actually there is no colonial capitalism. It’s called mercantilism. And we aren’t in that. We’re in extreme corporatism which rejects classical liberal thought in place of profit only.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Companies should stop pushing outrage and violence for views/clicks online. They should push unbiased fact-based stories that allow people to read and come to their own conclusions.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Y’all combines “you” and “all” to encompass a group of people. It’s a pretty common phrase

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Anonymous #22 10w

Honestly didn’t even look at the comments when I said it. Political parties just were never supposed to be a thing. I honestly just see political parties as bandwagoning at this point.

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Anonymous #29 10w

No you idiot what group do you think I belong to? 💀

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Anonymous #21 10w

Lincoln never said anything about prison labor. He opposed slavery as the barbaric practice that it is. He would be so saddened by the modern day slave trade going on in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. Not to mention that vast black market sex slave trade happening globally.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Bro runs his argument through ai cause he can’t structure an original thought by himself then posts memes when feeling defensive

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Anonymous #21 10w

The swallowers of slogans and those opposed to open debate of ideas. The group that opposes diversity of thought and is so concerned with “appearing” virtuous that they don’t actually do anything of virtue.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Swallowers of slogans is a quote from Orwell

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Anonymous #29 10w

BROTHER READ THE EXCEPTION CLAUSE

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Anonymous #29 10w

Read a book

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Anonymous #29 10w

Have you seriously not read the 13th amendment that “abolished” slavery??

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Anonymous #29 10w

Read the 13th amendment.

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Anonymous #22 10w

Again I say, go out there and read. Challenge your mind by looking at opposing viewpoints. I don’t believe in oppressive governments or state ownership yet I still read Marx.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Marx is not oppressive you idiot

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Anonymous #29 10w

These are facts homie they are not up for fucking debate

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Anonymous #29 10w

Have you read about the exception clause yet?

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Anonymous #29 10w

Still waiting for you to read about US history from a book that wasn’t sanitized by MacMillan or Pearson.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Still waiting for you to say anything about the Black codes and vagrancy laws that were implemented right after the 13th amendment was written.

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Anonymous #22 10w

You too, dipshit you’ve been real quiet about the 13th amendment and its fallout…

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Anonymous #21 10w

Yes we can agree that was an abuse of a loophole. What they did to target newly-freed people was wrong. We finally have some COMMON GROUND. But comparing that to what is happening today is not the same thing. No one alive today in the US was born a chattel slave. No one alive today has just been freed then returned to bondage via prison labor. There’s a distinct difference to then vs now.

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Anonymous #22 10w

Got anything to say about the exception clause? or the fact that we have the highest incarceration rate per capita with over 2 million people incarcerated? Or that we have the highest recidivism rate in the developed world? Or the fact that these institutions disproportionately target and affect people of color?

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Anonymous #21 10w

Yeah it’s just that every country that implements his ideas turns into an authoritarian state where thousands if not millions are imprisoned, die, or are killed.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Nobody’s saying it’s identical, the point is that it’s the same tool still running. The exception clause didn’t get used once in 1865 and retire. It’s the same legal loophole powering forced labor today, still overwhelmingly targeting Black Americans through sentencing disparities that trace straight back to those Black codes. “Distinct difference” doesn’t erase reality.

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Anonymous #21 10w

I suggest you look at violent crime statistics and learn the phrase “per capita”. It’s gonna change your whole outlook on life.

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Anonymous #29 10w

I can talk so much about how that conclusion is very wrong but I doubt you want to hear about theory and real world successes. You’d rather pedal propaganda.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Show me a society run off of purely his ideals that has succeeded. I’ll wait.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Per capita crime rates don’t explain sentencing disparities for the same offense, which is what’s actually happening. Black and white Americans get charged and sentenced differently for identical crimes, that’s documented across DOJ and Sentencing Commission data. You’re swapping the topic because the legal mechanism argument doesn’t have a good answer.

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Anonymous #29 10w

I never claimed that.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Demanding a “pure” implementation of any complex ideology is a rigged standard, capitalism’s never existed in a “pure” form either. The USSR and China industrialized under siege and civil war, not the conditions Marx wrote about. Nordic models and worker co-ops like Mondragon show collective ownership without authoritarianism. You’re using “not pure enough” to dismiss successes and “proof” for every failure. That’s not an argument.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Your Scandinavian models survive off the labor and success of capitalism.

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Anonymous #29 10w

That is not my claim.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Still waiting for you to address the sentencing disparities I pointed out.

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Anonymous #29 10w

You are moving on really fast from my criticism of our government’s foundation. Still waiting.

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Anonymous #29 10w

You wanna bring up Marx and debate about it so you can ignore the fact that our “justice” system is fundamentally unjust. I’m still waiting.

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Anonymous #21 10w

The government was flawed when it was founded. There were definitely issues that needed fixing. The founders did the best they could to establish a framework for success. Then they enabled us to change and adapt with things as time went on. That’s part of the beauty of our founding. It established American Exceptionalism that leaves us still striving for greater and greater things to this day.

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Anonymous #29 10w

And as we tackled the issues they couldn’t fix, we adapted. We added amendments. We are not perfect, no one can achieve perfection. But we will march on to that goal for as long as we can.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Oh yeah like the 13th amendment?? 🤡

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Anonymous #29 10w

I never said Nordic countries lack markets. The point is collective ownership and strong labor protections coexist with capitalism without becoming authoritarian. That’s a direct answer to your Marx/authoritarianism claim, not evasion.

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Anonymous #29 10w

And “the beauty of our founding is that we can change” doesn’t explain why this specific mechanism, the exception clause, has been actively exploited for 160 years instead of getting fixed. If the system self-corrects, why is it still running?

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Anonymous #29 10w

Do you believe in Manifest Destiny too??

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Anonymous #29 10w

You literally just restated the thing being criticized as if it answers the criticism lol “The system enables us to change and adapt” doesn’t address why the change has been so slow and uneven, or why the mechanisms being discussed (prison labor, sentencing disparities) have persisted for 160 years despite that supposed capacity for adaptation. Calling it “the beauty of our founding” is a values claim, not a rebuttal to a factual one about ongoing harm.

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Anonymous #29 10w

American exceptionalism is a VERY VERY VERY BAD THING.

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Anonymous #28 10w

You are literally pointing at trump as if the problem couldn’t possibly be any bigger than him. You may not intend to do it but you are defending america by doing this.

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Anonymous #28 10w

If our country was so great, none of this would be happening right now. Zoom out.

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Anonymous #28 10w

I don’t care what your excuses are. Stop defending yourself and open your damn eyes.

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Anonymous #29 10w

Statistically speaking you don’t understand how to interpret statistics lol you look at sentencing disparity actually think black people are inherently more violent than white people 🤣

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Anonymous gonzo 10w

Right now? Vote blue no matter who because the republicans are just putting up more pedophile protectors

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Anonymous #8 10w

Did your mum not tell you that everybody outside of the USA sees the US as terrorists and hates Americans?

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Anonymous #21 10w

ICE is following the exact footsteps of the gestapo and America is doing what early nazi germany did. Its history repeating itself

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Anonymous #32 10w

Jfl not even close, leftists don’t realize trump is literally a moderate president, you would be so horrified by the true right

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Anonymous #21 10w

Found the FSB agent

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Anonymous #28 10w

Trump unfortunately was the most corrupt person that told what a lot of the republicans base thst he’d overturn roe v wade, which they wanted since 1980s and every republican campaigned on it and failed to follow through and only cut taxes for the rich. So they were already disillusioned.

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Anonymous #27 10w

Bribery was legalized with the Citizens United decision. This is why everything has gone to shit, that and the deregulation of Wall Street. Bush was the main one to light the constitution on fire. The War in Iraq, and especially the Guantanamo Bay Toture program and the Patriot Act and legalization of warrantless surveillance normalized the denial of due process for those deemed “enemies of the state,” and the violation of the fourth amendments search and seizure clause.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Shut the fuck up with your Foucault, dirreda woke, deconstructionist, post-structuralist bullshit. Judge people of their historical time period within their context

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Anonymous #21 10w

You are right about the prison-industrial complex. It is like slavery. Drugs have destroyed so much in America and it’s bullshit. That wealthy get off with light sentencing

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Anonymous #21 10w

You are right. Read origins of the new south and the convict lease system was almost slavery

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Anonymous #29 10w

In this way more articulate than anything #21 says a

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Anonymous #29 10w

Exactly

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Anonymous #21 10w

Blacks have historically had institutionalized racism (a backable claim because southern states first and northern states found ways to bypass the 15th amendment, and the 13th amendment especially. If you could criminalize poverty, and criminalize homelessness you could effectively possess a large degree of control of the minority population

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Anonymous #32 10w

Bruh. The Nazis were quite literally inspired by what we did to black and indigenous people. Our government following the Nazis is really just it following its own roots. America is the OG nazi nation. ICE is following in the footsteps of AMERICA but you're too busy going "this is unamerican" to notice what's really happening here. This is not unamerican. This is America running exactly how it always has. FUCK AMERICA.

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Anonymous #21 10w

Sure thing comrade

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Anonymous #35 10w

if communist why iphone ass argument

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Anonymous #35 10w

Truth

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Anonymous #36 10w

Moronic way to pretend you’re right

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Anonymous #36 10w

Political opinion and boot licking a rapist are not the same There is nothing right or sane about maga

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Anonymous #25 10w

That women’s rights get taken away? WOW you’re a real piece of shit yikes You’re probably single too right? Lack of pussy will do that to you

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Anonymous #19 10w

You are into kids just like he is

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Anonymous #35 10w

Well trump surely isn’t getting us any progress A bill had to be passed against his will in order for us to be able to start affording to live again btw Think about that He didn’t want that He also doesn’t like education Said it him selves he loves dumb people

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Anonymous #37 10w

Wrong app bro, this app is full of nothing but Demis and libtards

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Anonymous #22 10w

im actually a leftist

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