Anonymous #4 1w

Nah we usually reserve those terms for people who are racist and nazis

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Anonymous OP 1w

Aka everyone you disagree with

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Anonymous #1 1w

Of course, it’s not like the trump administration is copying Nazi slogans, using a government backed police force to go around killing people or throwing them in camps, and invading other countries for unimportant reasons. Definitely not

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I’m not gonna put effort into this. I know I could bring up evidence of whatever we choose to argue about but every MAGA head is the exact same and would either ignore it or just keep deflecting the discussion to something else. If anyone feels like butting heads with this dude go for it but i don’t care enough to

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Anonymous #8 1w

I believe I speak for most people when I say that to me, MAGA are people who excuse everything Trump does without seeing anything wrong with it. If you’re a republican who voted for him but no longer supports what he is doing you’re not MAGA to me

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Anonymous #4 1w

bro shat his pants on live tv

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Anonymous #8 1w

did you support him shitting himself during a press conference today

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Anonymous #11 1w

Sure

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Anonymous #14 1w

I think the aggressiveness comes from the fact that many states are actively trying to curb ICE by not cooperating. When Obama deported 3-6 million illegal immigrants, most if not all state cooperated, giving the impression of slow and easy. Those are just my thoughts though.

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Anonymous #5 1w

This what people fail to acknowledge when they talk about the aggressiveness. In obamas term people weren’t out there trying to fight them

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Anonymous #4 1w

EXACTLY 🙌🙌🙌

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Anonymous #16 1w

Because when Obama did it undertrained trigger happy dudes cosplaying law enforcement weren’t shooting US citizens and showing up outside immigration hearing to deport people trying to “do it the right way” or showing up to preschools and tear-gassing kids

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Anonymous #18 15h

How so

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Anonymous #3 15h

Because they blindly protest everything he does?

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Anonymous #3 15h

Don’t even respond bro it’s just bait

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Anonymous #18 15h

I mean I’m curious to hear an example

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Anonymous #3 15h

ICE is an example

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Anonymous #18 15h

The idea behind ICE is fantastic but the way that it is being executed is very poor.

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Anonymous #18 15h

In what way do you feel people are blindly protesting ICE?

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Anonymous #8 15h

Yeah but they have people doxxing them, following them around, boxing them in, biting their fingers off, ect. I would probably be worse at my job if those were my working conditions too.

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Anonymous #3 15h

Well a very slim number of people cared when Obama was deporting people and ICE wasnt much different then. It was just the media coverage around them that was. A ton of his deportations ignored due process and the detention centers were dog shit but most democrats still supported them.

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Anonymous #18 15h

Fingers don’t get bit off for no reason btw. You can do this, just think a lil bit

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Anonymous OP 15h

Orrrrr people can gtfo of ICE’s way

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Anonymous #18 15h

Oh man he almost formed a thought

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Anonymous OP 15h

Weird to talk about yourself in the third person btw

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Anonymous #18 15h

People absolutely criticized Obama’s deportations at the time- immigrant rights groups literally called him the ‘Deporter in Chief.’ The difference critics point to isn’t that Obama didn’t deport people, it’s that his later policies formally narrowed enforcement priorities, whereas Trump removed those prioritization limits, which meant a much broader group of undocumented people became eligible for enforcement

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Anonymous #3 14h

I didn’t say he wasnt criticized I said it was less prevalent and they weren’t harassing ICE agents, at least not to this degree. I also don’t think it’s such a bad thing to have fewer prioritization limits especially after the Biden admin completely dropped the ball on border, but you’re welcome to disagree. Im glad we can actually have a conversation.

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Anonymous #18 14h

I appreciate the conversation too. I think where we differ isn’t whether enforcement should exist, but whether prioritization limits matter. My point is that removing prioritization changes who is at risk of enforcement- not just criminals or recent entrants, but potentially anyone undocumented. That’s a pretty significant policy shift.

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Anonymous #3 14h

Fair and I think that’s a good point. When I’ve talked to people who are anti ICE (there’s a lot bc I’m at CU) no one has listed that as a reason. Hence why I said they are blindly protesting, but I think prioritization limits would be a decent point for people to protest specifically for— and it might enact actual change instead of protesting for no enforcement at all.

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Anonymous #18 14h

To be clear, I still think more general immigration enforcement is a net positive. We will always have issues at the border if we don’t enforce our immigration laws, and I think border security is important for numerous reasons. However, I wouldn’t mind more specific prioritization limits and think that COULD be a compromise depending on what they are. IMO protestors should advocate more towards this and it might lead towards you guys getting more of what you want.

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