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Hot take: Latino/Hispanic communities often live out Christian values more authentically than the White American “Christians” that were hating on the Super Bowl performance.
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Anonymous 3d

Depends on how you wanna look at it

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Anonymous 3d

Hi OP, what you are talking about is the Latino community is still in the Christian culture. The US was at one point that way until after World War Two and began to shift. Some argue Trump will seek to bring the Christian culture back by seeking ending the income taxes with tariffs and without the IRS the pastors and priests can be directly like Charlie Kirk. That is why they say TPUSA is a committee really ran by churches because Kirk could do things they can’t due to the IRS.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3d

… Christian values are not about money and taxes. It’s about morals and being a good person who cares about others… Trump is in the Epstein files. He does not stand for Christian values. You’re thinking of the co-opted White Christian Nationalism, built on money, hate and lies. Wake up. Read your bible. Love your neighbor. Stand up for what’s right.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3d

Christin values isn’t the same as Christian culture. Yes state religion is not right nor good. There is a foreign policy that American churches are engaging in. A case study is when Vatican II was passed within the Catholic Church that made changed and even took power away from the nuns. That was a geopolitical move by the church so state departments and diplomats don’t eye them. Orthodox for example didn’t have Vatican II and are targeted by diplomats.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3d

A difference can be seen when the Catholic Church made changes to align with the geopolitics with the world and orthodox did not. US churches were dormant in that sense and the IRS is not fair with their audits when there is clear corruption in nonprofits owned by the oligarchs when the hammer is on the churches. TPUSA is the foreign policy of the American churches to get society to the hard right.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3d

If one looks at Russia for example, Putin rose up to power and pushed the citizens to go hard right with orthodox assisting. America I believe has many parallels to this right now. The idea is to get society back to the late 1800s economically and have Christian culture everywhere.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3d

So this hard right movement isn’t a Trump creation but a foreign policy between church leaders and military generals in the US. Trump is selling the ideas but isn’t the one that really organized it. Same with Charlie Kirk. He’s the face of TPUSA but the churches are behind it and he sells it.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3d

So overall this hard right push has parallels to the 1930s but I do not think it’s some episode of history but more of a realignment that will last longer than decades. Erasing the debt, tariffs, churches free to go direct like Kirk, and etc will create enough environmental pressures for people to form families and be a model citizen. Where the age of history changes to an older paradigm. Is this a renaissance movement or social control? Time will tell.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3d

I get the history, but when people in power shape faith through politics, it pulls people away from morals like kindness and grace, and that was the hypocrisy I was calling out.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

Very true. In history there are what they call the 4 M’s. That is monarchy, money, military, and monotheism. A society will have its center in any of the 4 M’s. Rome is ran by a cathedral, US has a lot of industry and cities can be ran by money, the palaces of the UK or Spain running the kingdom with parliament as the facade, communism has their communist party comprised of military generals. These 4 archetypes shows in time in history one of wants power centralized to it.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

Evangelism in the US for example had pastors come saying that both papacy and the kings are bad because they don’t stay in their lane. Then as the time passed in the US during mid to late 1800s, oligarchic towns form where one guy owned the town and he banned the bible and journalism where it had to be approved. Churches at the time took issue because that was like a pope. Communism later on seeks to ban the churches and that too didn’t stay in their lane avoiding a monopoly.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

Ancient Greeks postulated how should a society be ran. They went over the different government types and historical case studies that they knew of. Thucydides observed in time a society grows to be an empire and will cross path with another empire and fall into a trap of war. Aristotle reduced that a republic is what keeps a nation balanced when each archetype role of society has an even say and staying in their lane.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

This is why the founding fathers drew inspiration first with the Bible and also the Greeks regarding a republic. They didn’t endorse a church and Jesus himself did not, he simply said follow me. The issue in history is when a monopoly forms and it’s typically from these archetypal four M’s where they don’t stay in their lane for what society needs and seeks a monopoly where all decision making goes through them.

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2d

This is why I believe God exists because society is one generation away from destruction and it his miracles that keep the earth intact and as a species why we do not go extinct. It is his virtue and virtue alone we exist. With no humans, then there is no history but geology. The spark of human life is sacred to him.

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