
âBe a man and set something up thenâ is such a turnoff and no way to speak to a human? Like yall literally think since men (they are) are pieces of crap you can just be the same back and thatâs just wrong? If he said âBe a woman andâ yall would have a field day but the double standards prevail in that bird brain and itâs not all women just women on TikTok lmao
#4 is lowkey right but their attitude is awful about it đ yeah, perpetuating toxic masculinity stereotypes ainât doing much for feminism, and it is dehumanizing for both parties. It seems mainly spiteful, but we have to note that that spite is not entirely unearned. Regardless, being lazy/careless about planning a date when *you* are the instigator is rude and it shows a lack of respect for the OPâs time/energy. It also ignites doubt that they care at all in the first place.
why not just say âim free on these days/times, when are you free?â đ straight people are so confusing itâs one thing if you tell people you like initiative but unless ur okay with him telling u âbe a woman and cook me dinnerâ donât be anal abt traditional gender roles đ
Everyone silent now once you bring up a man is supposed to âpay and make plansâ and then whatâs a woman supposed to do? Yâall donât wanna confine a woman but itâs cool to do it to a man? You arenât a good person if you think that way just so you know! And once you get a bf yall instantly stop saying all this toođ
Hatred or prejudice towards women. The idea that the man always has to âtake chargeâ and be the one making plans is rooted in the patriarchy. The assumption is that a woman canât or shouldnât do that. That she should just do what sheâs told. To me it looked like he was initiating making plans TOGETHER, instead of just making them without her input and expecting her to say yes to whatever he says.
No one said they didnât? You either canât read or donât have common sense⌠do I need to explain this whole conversation to you piece by piece and explain everything very slow? Also, donât act like women canât make plans or initiate anything? You arenât in Afghanistan? Like what are we doing lol
We both know you have a opinion and are commenting for a reason. If truly didnât care you wouldnât comment. You disagree with me so you try to spell correct to make yourself feel superior. This is to place is to discuss the topic. If your purpose is to show you arenât able to have a logical conversation with a woman then youâre reenforcing the stereotype that you canât have a logical discussion with women.
Counter point donât be a dense asshole and give a some dates that youâre free. âYou could have easily left them aloneâ um they were clearly talking to each other in a way that was headed towards potential dating. Are you that daft to think they randomly asked to meet someone when there was no mutual interest at first. Women arenât infants you dolt
If you want dates of when sheâs free then ask that dumbass. Not âwhen are we going to meetâ. Thatâs not for THEM to decide. Thatâs for YOU to decide as youâre the one wanting their attention and time. And even if they arenât free theyâll TELL you after you plan it. âHey wanna grab coffee Saturday morning?â. âSorry I canât how about Friday afternoon insteadâ. See how simple shit goes when you actually had an idea in mind?
Yeah and all my friends know that yet STILL plan shit bc itâs called âPLANNING IN ADVANCEâ. You can easily plan a date for the week after so she has time to look into her schedule ahead, make time off work if need be etc. instead you want all the work to be on her when sheâs not the one thatâs interested. Sheâs there bc she gave you her time and sheâs allowing you entrance into her life and youâre wasting it
You initiated and asked HER out. The date is not her responsibility. You can talk to the person to more them before meeting but if you initiated it you plan it. âNot everyone plans stuff with friends they workâ. Has to be the most brain dead, obtuse, and ignorant excuse ever. So since you donât plan shit with friends you canât plan shit AT ALL? Do you hangout with yourself and your thoughts every single day?
I never said that if you can read. A man whoâs mature is gonna plan a date with the person they asked out. Planning dates is not that hard. If you canât plan a simple date Iâm just gonna assume you didnât actually care. Bc you lack effort and intention. So if you canât plan hangouts to any capacity bc of âworkâ how do you plan your doctorâs appointments, dentist appointments, hair cuts etc bc work can get in the way of those yet you still do it.
I think thatâs you dude youâre projecting real hard about how youâre incapable of planning dates. You must have never planned shit in your life before if you have every excuse imaginable to not take initiative in anything you do. No oneâs about to mommy you about things and do shit for you
Iâve made plans before all the time when IâM the one initiating. I meet so many men that place everything on women regardless of what event it is. Theyâre planning the dates, the celebrations, the weddings, etc. and you canât plan a simple thing that takes 5 mins to come up with. But âwomen are upholding the patriarchyâ. As if women havenât been the sole planners of things for decades
I donât expect a man who canât plan his own doctor appointment to daddy me. I donât even expect my own dad to do anything for me. Women have been taught to do so much shit on our own and men just uphold it bc they think bc they have a womanâs attention sheâll stay. She plans the dates bc all they have to do is get her attention and sheâs immediately sold. Like no. Grow up and do something with yourself thatâs not how love works
Yeah exactly. Weâre planning it bc a grown ass man couldnât do it. Youâre okay with it bc you know you donât have to do anything but show up. You wait on women to do everything for you. A mature man is gonna plan it. Just say youâre a little boy without an ounce of thoughtfulness in his body
No oneâs claiming mommy issues. I said youâre an immature little boy that has women do everything for you. If thatâs mommy issues to you you need to work on that. You donât even plan shit with friends youâre the type of guy that has everyone doing stuff for you. Like a little fucking leech. Iâd NEVER do ppl like that idc what dynamic weâre in. Iâm not letting my friends plan every little thing bc âppl workâ. Itâs called messaging ideas and seeing where it goes not asking âwhen am I gonna meetâ
I could never be a man because Iâm always asking.đ ofc itâs nice to take initiative but even now as a girl, I still ask certain questions to get a feel of what that person may wanna do rather than setting something up & they end up not liking it or it doesnât work. And it seems likeâŚthey barely know each other. So maybe he genuinely doesnât know. Idk, I didnât perceive it as negative but then again, we donât know what their previous conversations were like soâŚ
You canât speak for every woman that likes traditional living. I know what life is like without traditional gender roles and i still prefer gender roles. You can like gender roles and not be misogynistic. Youâre generalizing / stereotyping. I like gender roles FOR MY LIFE only. No one around me hates women. I donât tolerate that at all.
Iâd recommend reading this article instead of throwing around a commonly-weaponized statistic, since weaponizing homophobia and the patriarchy is how abusers get away with shit in our community đ all youâve proven here is that I should be MORE pissed at OP for weaponizing gender roles. https://www.hrc.org/resources/understanding-intimate-partner-violence-in-the-lgbtq-community
You: throws out a statistic without knowing its context Me: âYou should know the context on why that happens instead of throwing out statisticsâ You: misses the entire point and throws out the same statistic without knowing its context Iâm sorry but are you being intentionally dense?