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If you’re protesting ice by parking your car in front of them and you attempt to drive away from a stopped position, and the ice “agent” walks in front of your car, who is at fault?

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The guy walking in front of my car

The peaceful protester

327 votes

Anonymous 4w

She received conflicting orders and complied with one of them, which was to leave, had that agent been struck, which he wasnt, it would be officer induced jeopardy. Either way point blank lethal force and especially multiple fired rounds is not how that situation is handled (see Tennessee vs garner supreme court 1985)

Anonymous 4w

Everyone needs a dash cam imo lol, I don’t have one but have wanted one for such a long time. Driving through a crowd or toward a person because they’re blocking your way intentionally could hold up in court especially given drivers intentions, if the driver was being threatened it would be self defense to use the car as a weapon

Anonymous 4w

63 lobotomy patients I see

Anonymous 4w

According Minnesota law as signed by time Walz police officers may fire on a vehicle if viewed as a reasonable threat to officers safety. It is also not the officers fault if he attempts to place in custody someone interfering with a federal police operation and blocking a road. No matter her intent with driving the car she hit him and he perceived it as a threat. Therefore by Minnesota and federal law he was justified. Can it be a tragedy that someone lost their life and justified. Yes

Anonymous 4w

‘Peaceful’

-1

Anonymous 4w

-8

Anonymous

#2 4w

She was turning away from the ice thug and clearly was doing a 3 point turn to leave. And there are 7+ camera angles

Anonymous

OP 4w

Any current case involving ICE - in my opinion based on what I’ve seen and heard - ICE is always in the wrong

Anonymous

#5 4w

He was not hit, transferred his phone to his non dominant hand before he was even in front of the vehicle, and had the weapon drawn while she was moving the vehicle away from him. Either way ICE arent cops, they have different abilities and restrictions. On top of that a car in drive with a dead persons foot on the gas is a lot more of a lethal threat than a woman fleeing, to not only the agents but civilians as well.

Anonymous

#5 4w

Federal law does not support what he did and neither does Minnesota law. I explained the federal laws in my own comment. As for Minnesota law, these policies come with written in caveats for this very reason, endangering civilians with a runaway out of control vehicle because you chose to endanger yourself (officer induced jeopardy) is not acceptable.

Anonymous

#5 4w

To be clear I dont think it was right of her to block traffic, thats illegal and alters the status of the protest making peaceful/nonpeaceful a debate, but she followed an order given which was to leave and got shot in the face point blank through an open window for it multiple times, if you find that level of inhumane lethal force acceptable for someone with less time spent in training than 90% of other professions then your world view is severely skewed.