Anonymous #3 5w

I’m not saying them existing as Christians, I mean when they try to push you towards it

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Anonymous #2 5w

I agree with this, but saying EVERYONE as people ultimately fail without feeling connected to something greater is just false. I literally feel no connection to political parties, religion, etc. Anything that feels like it’s above myself or my control is simply boring, uninteresting, and limiting to me. So I agree for the sake of others, but not for myself, at least. Source: my parents are devout christians, and I never took any interest

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Anonymous #4 5w

So for me, it isn’t really an issue of religion, it’s an issue of having beliefs forced on you. I very much value autonomous choice in life; if you make a choice to join a religious org yourself, then by all means do so. If you were indoctrinated into it, I struggle to believe it was something you really wanted, and find your motives in joining to be perplexing, is all.

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Anonymous #4 5w

I disagree with this solely because nobody is perfect. Only relying on yourself will eventually lead to failure. We’d be in a utopia if our leaders made the right decisions. Nature is a prime example of this because we screw things up every time we try to control it. There are so many things out of our control and we need to accept that.

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Anonymous #2 5w

No no no. I’m not saying I’m only relying on myself. I’m saying I won’t rely on something that feels above my level of existence. Religion is too existential. I’d much rather rely on the people closest to me, for instance, than outsource myself to any cause that’s above me

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Anonymous #4 5w

That’s what I’m getting at. I have no desire to feel apart of something bigger than me and my close circle.

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Anonymous #4 5w

I guess I get what you are saying. If you are not religious though, isn’t there at least some respect for nature though, because we are part of it and our fate is in nature’s control?

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Anonymous #2 5w

I will recognize and respect your point on nature, here. However, as I’ve been saying, I honestly don’t really care lol. Anything that feels abstract or above me or out of my control is plainly just something I don’t have any ambition to deal with. So I respect it, and your point about it, I just… don’t really mind because I have no control, you know?

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Anonymous #4 5w

I’m very much someone who grounds their identity in the self, so worrying about things that go beyond myself or beyond my social ecosystem just never really sat with me. Not that I don’t love discussing my perspective ofc because I do. I just don’t really care to worry about it because it’s out of my hands. I guess this is a form of nihilism now that I think about it lol.

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