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Should the electoral college be banned in favor of a popular vote where the candidate who gets the most votes wins?
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Anonymous 29w

The electoral college is so fucking stupid and I do not understand how people think it's a good thing. We're literally the only country that has one, and it actively undermines our supposed "democracy" by putting people in power that the larger number of voters didn't choose

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Anonymous 29w

It's just high-level gerrymandering

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Anonymous 29w

Every state should be like Maine and Nebraska, statewide winner gets two electoral votes and then each congressional district gives an EV

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Anonymous 29w

All the arguments I've heard for keeping it are misguided and illogical

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Anonymous 29w

I agree this should be changed but this would alter how politicians campaign and wouldn’t likely visit the smaller towns if it was a popular vote.

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Anonymous 29w

The electoral college is what helps identify our country as a republic. No where in the constitution does it mention the word “democracy”. This is also why the senate typically requires 60 votes out of 100 to pass a bill.

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Anonymous 29w

No that would be unfair and cities would have majority rule, completely ignoring rural opinion. That was the whole point of implementing it in the first place.

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Anonymous 29w

No because a popular vote is still not an effective way to select a new president. We should have ranked-choice voting

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Anonymous 28w

i think ranked choice voting would be better

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Anonymous 28w

Lincoln got 39.8% of the popular vote. But it was between 4 candidates. There was less support for Lincoln nationwide than there was for other options. America didn’t want him. Saying “it wasn’t even close” is a lie too. Should I downvote you for that? Anyway, let me correct you, he got zero southern electoral votes. He swept nearly all Northern states, which had most of the ec votes, giving him a 180–123 EC win.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 29w

Well they don’t visit entire states if they’ve consistently been red or blue, so this argument is whatever

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 29w

They already don’t visit smaller towns lol

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 29w

People should be advocating for the eradication of our two party system. Something our government was never supposed to be based around instead of changing the constitution.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 29w

America isn’t a democracy 🤦‍♀️

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Anonymous 29w

Yup did no one watch squid game 3 🤦‍♀️😂

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Anonymous 29w

The electoral college isn’t used for anything besides deciding president though?? Removing the EC doesn’t mean removing representatives completely. How would switching from a non-proportional vote to a proportional one in this specific case do anything to change any other part of the government??

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Anonymous 29w

We are a Democratic Republic, that is a form of democracy And no, the electoral college is not a check and balance, it was created because of practical limitations of speed and transport of information at that time. The house vs the senate setup is for checks and balances, as are the defined risks of different branches of government that have been increasingly undermined as more and more power has been concentrated in the executive and the Supreme Court

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 29w

Most countries today in the world are Republica, none of them have the electoral college except this one And no, that is not why the senate typically requires 60 votes to pass a bill, that was not even a dynamic until recently. For most of our history, it virtually never took 60% to pass bills in this country. The Senate is already inherently undemocratic The US is a Democratic Republic, that is a type of democracy.

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Anonymous replying to -> #13 29w

It wasn’t supposed to be based upon it, but the way it was set up makes it inevitable, the only way to fix that long term would be with a constitutional amendment And the constitution was made to be changed, that’s why they have the whole thing with the amendments set up

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Anonymous replying to -> #12 29w

No, people would have majority rule, not places, which means rural voters in California would actually have a say, for example (which means a lot to me as someone from there) And the majority of the US population is in suburban areas, not cities The electoral college doesn’t really do much to help rural voters. The senate does, but not the electoral college

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Anonymous replying to -> #14 29w

Yeah.. but by popular vote

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Anonymous replying to -> #16 28w

I support Ranked Choice Voting, but that is a voting system, the electoral college and popular votes are electoral systems. You could do popular vote or the electoral college with RCV, STAR voting, first past the post, or many other models

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