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Do some people deserve to suffer?
#poll
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No
388 votes
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Anonymous 3w

Mass murderers and child rapists should be tortured for life

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Anonymous 3w

Suffering is a moral evil and solves nothing, regardless of who it is. It's difficult to have compassion for some people who got what they apparently deserved but delighting in suffering is kind of fucked up

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Anonymous 3w

Ive noticed that most people that get upset with “eye for an eye” are the people that take other peoples eyes out in the first place (they really dont want that done back to them)

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

Exactly ^^ wanting other to suffer for their wrong doing is a primal urge and it needs to be stopped

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

No. That helps nothing. It’s just more pain

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

Does that person not deserve pain? A mass murderer or school shooter causes irreversible harm on a massive scale, so the punishment should be as severe. They should not have the privilege to enjoy another day of their life, senseless murder or raping a child is the worst thing a human can do.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

I go to a university that had a shooting in recent memory. The detrimental effect that event had on the students, families, and faculty should be addressed in a courtroom. In my opinion, the shooter should be sentenced to the same amount of pain and suffering as the entire school had that day. Imagine you send your child to uni and they are shot while enjoying their day, it's absolutely terrible and completely disgraceful. The shooter should pay forever, I think the death sentence is too easy.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 3w

Do two wrongs make a right? An eye for an eye and the world goes blind. What does harming someone purely out of retribution solve?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

Idk man. Look at people who abuse/kill kids and tell me they deserve no punishment. Im not about this “moral high ground” thing. Eye for an eye. Dont do it to someone else if you dont want it done back to you.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

Letting them get off scot-free is even worse. All it does is encourage the behavior.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

I am/was a pacifist but recent times are making me second guess that sadly. If no punishment is enforced then it only encourages the perpetrators to repeat their crimes without fear of consequences…

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

It sets a precedent that could potentially discourage future tragedies.

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

Does their suffering actually fix the harm they’ve done? Does it mean they atone in some way for it? Will the child they hurt be healed in any way by it?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

I say, an eye for an eye. If someone purposely causes an innocent person to suffer, they deserve to suffer.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

So u think they should just get to go on with their lives like they haven’t ruined other peoples lives?

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Anonymous replying to -> #7 3w

Look I can debate this with one person but I can’t debate it with 20 people

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

You can listen and either agree or disagree, man. Thats how this works lol. This isnt a fact, its a philosophical/opinion discussion.

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Anonymous replying to -> #6 3w

Yeah it does actually. If someone punched me, it would in fact make me feel better if they got punched in return. Its basic karma.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 3w

Prevents others from doing the same

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

Who said anything about letting them off scot free? Let them rot in prison forever and never see the light of day, but it is always a crime against humanity to torture someone

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 3w

Have you ever seen someone get tortured? I don’t know how anyone can even imagine that happening to any human being and not find it morally repugnant

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Anonymous replying to -> #8 3w

I mean if it was Epstein or any of his guys id actually be chill w it

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 3w

You're right and you should say it. They should go to prison but suffering literally does nothing. It doesn't help the victim, and it doesn't help society.

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 3w

I’d have to dig it back up to find it but there are several interviews with the family of victims of murderers on death row, and most of them have said that it doesn’t give them any kind of closure, it just feels like more needless death

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Anonymous replying to -> #10 3w

And in terms of child abuse and SA, I can say from personal experience that it’s complicated. It’s most likely to be someone you know and are already close with, not just some random stranger. Harsher punishments make it more likely that perpetrators try to prevent any kind of reporting going so far as to kill the victim. Survivors often blame themselves for what happens after. Not saying that there isn’t more nuance to the psychological stuff that goes with that, but state violence doesn’t help

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