Anonymous mr.orangutan 5w

THAT’S RIGHT AND IT’S JUST PURE COINCIDENCE HE WON 0 DIVISION TITLES IN 11 SEASONS WITHOUT BRADY AND 17 DIVISION TITLES IN 18 SEASONS WITH BRADY. JUST BECAUSE HE WAS INCAPABLE OF WINNING HIS DIVISION WITHOUT BRADY DOES NOT MEAN HE WAS A COATTAIL RIDING FRAUD. GET OVER IT.

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Anonymous OP 5w

You’re not going to play an important role in winning a large amount of SBs if you’re a fraud. It’s one thing if he was just the HC and didn’t call plays and wasn’t responsible for roster/staff creation yet he was the GM and was one of the better ones until recently and with that occasionally also took over play calling duties. You’re trying to cherry pick the smallest things to make him seem as if he was some shit coach and GM when he’s without a doubt a top 5 coach of all time.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 5w

EXACTLY!! LOOKING AT ALL 30 SEASONS HE WAS HEAD COACH FOR AND NOTICING THAT EVERY SINGLE DIVISION TITLE AND ALL BUT ONE PLAYOFF WIN WITH A SINGLE PLAYER IS CHERRY PICKING. JUST BECAUSE OTHER COACHES CAN WIN DIVISIONS WITHOUT THEIR BEST QUARTERBACK AND BELICHICK CAN’T DOESN’T MAKE HIM A FRAUD.

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Anonymous OP 5w

I want you to expand your search to multiple past and current HCs that are considered some of the best all time and I then want you to put together the similarities that their rosters shared and more importantly how good their QBs were. I don’t think I can name one all time great HC off of my head that didn’t have a top QB or lack of a top QB heavily impact their success in terms of winning. I then want you to understand not only how hard it is to find a top QB talent but also how hard it is to

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Anonymous OP 5w

Develop one, there’s so much that goes into the development of a player that some stuff is completely out of the coaches control. So just bc you TYPE LIKE THIS and focus on few things that are minor facts does not take away how great of a coach and GM Bill was in his prime.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

THAT IS IRRELEVANT. SO WHAT IF ANDY REID HAS 8 DIVISION TITLES AND A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT MAHOMES? SO WHAT IF JOE GIBBS WON 3 SUPER BOWLS WITH 3 DIFFERENT QBS, NONE OF WHICH WERE EVEN CLOSE TO HALL OF FAME LEVEL? SO WHAT IF MIKE MCCARTHY HAS A WINNING RECORD, MULTIPLE PLAYOFF WIKS AND DIVISION TITLES WITHOUT RODGERS? YOU THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE BELICHICK WAS 100% DEPENDENT ON BRADY HE’S FRAUD? WELL GUESS WHAT. HE’S NOT.

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Anonymous OP 4w

Acting like Bill didn’t have playoff wins with Bledsoe and like they weren’t in a SB. You’re a clown.

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Anonymous OP 4w

All of those coaches have had the benefit of multiple good/great QBs, you are grasping at straws. Also my entire argument is that Bill wasn’t 100% dependent on Brady and that he’s not a fraud.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

HE WENT 5-13 WITH BLEDSOE AND MISSED THE PLAYOFFS BUT THAT DOESN’T COUNT

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

I COMPLETELY AGREE. EVERY COACH WHO EVER WON A DIVISION TITLE HAD A HALL OF FAME QB. EXCEPT FOR BRAD CHILDRESS, WALLY LEMM, MIKE ZIMMER, JOE COLLIER, DAN DEVINE, PAUL BROWN, DICK NOLAN, RED MILLER, MIKE VRABEL, BILL COWHER, TODD BOWLES, MATT NAGY, JASON GARRETT, DICK VERMEIL, DOM CAPERS, NORV TURNER, DON SHULA, RAYMOND BERRY, JIM L. MORA, JOHN RAUCH, WADE PHILLIPS, JOHN MCKAY, JOHN MADDEN, ANDY REID, MIKE DITKA, TOM COUGHLIN, BART STARR,

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Anonymous OP 4w

RON MEYER, BLATON COLLIER, STEVE MARIUCCI, RON RIVERA, CHUCK PAGANO, BRIAN BILLICK, MARY SCHOTTENHEIMER, BUDDY RYAN, MIKE MCCARTHY, RAY MALAVASI, DAN CAMPBELL, DAN REEVES, BUD GRANT, PETE CARROLL, LEEMAN BENNETT, DAN QUINN, FORREST GREGG, KEVIN O’CONNELL, JIM E. MORA, BILL O’BRIEN, CHUCK FAIRBANKS, BOBBY ROSS, JIM HASLETT, JOHN HARBAUGH,

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Anonymous OP 4w

DAVE WANNSTEDT, MIKE HOLMGREN, SEAN MCVAY, CHUCK KNOX, TOM LANDRY, TONY DUNGY, DOUG MARRONE, TODD HALEY, BRUCE ARIANS, BILL PARCELLS, TED MARCHIBRODA, ART SHELL, KYLE SHANAHAN, JOHN ROBINSON, CHUCK NOLL, TOM FLORES, JOHN FOX, MARVIN LEWIS, DOUG PEDERSON, WAYNE FONTES, DICK JAURON, SAM RUTIGLIANO, GARY KUBIAK, JEFF FISHER, BUD CARSON, JERRY BURNS, JON GRUDEN, DENNIS GREEN, GEORGE ALLEN, TONY SPARANO, MIKE SHANAHAN, DON CORYELL, ARTHUR SMITH,

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Anonymous OP 4w

SAM WYCHE, JIM FASSEL, BILL CALLAHAN, NICK SKORICH, DUTCH CLARK, HERM EDWARDS, MIKE MARTZ, JOE GIBBS, DEMECO RYANS, CHIP KELLY, AND LOVIE SMITH. BUT THAT’S IT. OTHER THAN A HANDFUL OF EXCEPTIONS A HALL OF FAME QB IS REQUIRED TO WIN YOUR DIVISION.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 4w

AND JUST BECAUSE BELICHICK HAD 6 PRO BOWL QBS NOT NAMED TOM IS IRRELEVANT. QBS MUST BE HALL OF FAME TO WIN DIVISIONS EXCEPT FOR THOSE FEW EXCEPTIONS.

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