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Ok hold deflate gate and spygate against bill, sure. Spygate has been talked about by former head coaches, execs and others alike for years. All the pats did differently to get fined was they filmed from a different location than the one allocated to them
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Anonymous 2w

Jimmy Johnson also just said that his cowboys did exactly what bill was accused of doing, and that the person that recommended it to him, worked very closely with bill polian. Also said that every team was doing exactly what the pats got punished for.

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Anonymous 2w

The patriots won the "deflategate" game 45-7. I don't think it was merely the balls that determined that outcome

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Anonymous 2w

Yes, that’s called breaking the rules Breaking the rules is usually not very sportsmanlike or admirable…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Former coaches defending the league’s golden boy, who woulda thought? 😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Many have come out from inside the pats during that time that say thag bill used it sort of as fuck you to goodell and his new rules

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

No shit, but they also still deflated the balls…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Yeah, that’s not defensible or admirable, Belichick shouldn’t make the Hall, he’s a cheater

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s cheating

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

So uh whyd the linebacker who initially say the balls were deflated, come out and rescind his statement about 2 weeks afyer the fact?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

The balls had nothing to do with that outcome. Maybe it would've been 35-7 without them

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Spotted the jets fan!

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

The pats barely threw the football that game

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Yeah, doesn’t change the fact they deflated the balls, idk why you keep saying this like it makes it okay?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

You're insane if you don't think Belichick is a first ballot hall of famer

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

If Brady didn’t do it why did he accept his punishment and not try to appeal?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

You do realize they didnt gain a competitive advantage in any way right? Bc other teams were still getting their signs regardless of where they filmed in the stadium?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Cheaters shouldn’t make the hall, same situation as Barry bonds as far as I’m concerned

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 2w

Its not cheating. Its breaking the rules. Cheating would be gaining a competitive advantage and there was none of that gained. Get a grip

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

It’s bc of the principle jackass, if you don’t respect the rules of the sport, why should the sport respect you back or celebrate you?

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

“Because he has character and morals”

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

if there was no advantage gained, why did they do it in the first place? I need you to acc use your brain for a second

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Breaking the rules is cheating holy crap how dumb are you

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 2w

I thought new Englanders were supposed to be well-educated, must be a dropout

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Bc before there was no restrictions on where you could film. Goodell was newer and made a change. Not like its rocket science you salty mf

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

The greatest to ever do it not making the hall of fame is ridiculous and an embarrassment to the league.

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Anonymous replying to -> #3 2w

You can break the rules of “no domestic violence” and would that be cheating?????? You do realize that for someone to cheat in sports itd be to gain a competitive advantage over someone or something???????? How dumb are you bud

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Yes, so maybe they should have, idk, followed the new rule changes? It’s not that hard to change, and the main reason you wouldn’t is if you could feign ignorance about the rule change and maintain an advantage, otherwise why wouldn’t they just follow along the new rules?

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Tell that to the MLB, maybe the GOATs shouldn’t cheat

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

So lets says trump makes new rule change that says whatever new dumb shit he wants, are you gonna follow it blindly or go against it to say fuck you

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

no that’s breaking the law, I mean yeah that could matter, but HoF nominations have nothing to do with someone’s personal life, it’s to recognize exemplary individuals to the sport of football, someone who doesn’t respect sportsmanship or the rules of the game doesn’t deserve that kind of praise

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Mf he IS football

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Dawg there’s a difference between a corrupt government and the fucking NFL commissioner, are you dense? Belichick spying is somehow Goodell’s fault? 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Even if he is, doesn’t mean he deserves the honor

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Just bc youre a sorry ass bills/chiefs/jets/dolphins/eagles fan doesnt mean you can diminish his accomplishments 🤦🏻

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Not one of those fans, used to be a Pats fan actually, I have family from Boston, I switched to being a Broncos fan after deflategate, it broke 12 year old me’s heart

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Do you even know what spygate was bruh???? Bc it happened b4 you had a conscious i can almost guarantee that much

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

yes it did, yet there’s books and articles on it, it’s almost as if you can read about what happened in the past? 😱

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Youre so lame if you actually think the balls were deliberately deflated💀

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Omg almost like people wanted to cash in on the nfl lynching brady for being too good

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Should Tom Brady not be a first ballot hall of famer?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Wells Report said it was “more probable than not” that 2 Pats employees deflated footballs and that Brady was “probably” “at least generally aware” of the plan. 11 of the 12 balls were all 2 pounds per square inch deflated, they were all that way, if it was an accident maybe you’d see some variation in the inflation? Plus the Pats employee literally texted another one calling himself the “deflator” and described how he took them into the bathroom to do it

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

“Probably at least generally aware” and youre certain about it off that. LMFAOOO💀💀💀💀💀💀 you are so sad. Have fun watching youre sorry ass broncos play 2 hand touch football on the beaches of cancun ya clown

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

He did appeal ya dingus…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Bro I’m not even salty, I’m reading you what the NFL literally investigated with 3rd-party investigators, you’re just denying the truth 😭 They caught the Pats employees red-handed, he literally outed himself, there’s no debate, you’re denying fact

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

He literally made a big thing about the appeal bro🤦🏻 theres a meme of him literally from court🤡🤡🤡🤡

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Yeah, he did appeals that wouldn’t require as much of a legal process, he had the choice to take it SCOTUS but he chose not to, perhaps bc he knew it would embarrass him to actually go to trial over this

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

No shouldn’t make the hall at all

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Okay so now its just a pays employee… no evidence to directly link bill or brady…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

I should’ve clarified my positions, he appealed in appeal court, but accepted defeat there even tho that’s not the technical legal end of appeals, he or the Pats could’ve escalated, and if innocent, likely could’ve won against the NFL, I think it speaks to the legitimacy of the accusations that Brady and the Pats chose not to appeal further

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

again “probably generally aware of the plan” In a criminal case, it’s not beyond a reasonable doubt, but the more likely than not standard is def met

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

I did a report on this whole thing in middle school bc again, I was a Pats fan, just bc you don’t know your shit doesn’t make me a salty Broncos fan, I could give af, I knew it was over once we lost Nix, plus I have infinitely more respect for Vrabel and Maye than I do for Belichick and Brady

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Youre dead wrong…. He took it to appeals and the 2nd court reinstated it. Based on evidence that balls that were measured pregame, were 2 lbs per in deflated by halftime. With no evidence directly linking anybody but brady didnt have enough to overturn. He appealed, they just denied him his appeal…

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Get wrecked bozo

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Yes, and guess what, he could have chosen to appeal to a higher court, like SCOTUS Just bc you don’t know how the legal system works doesn’t make me the idiot https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17083595/tom-brady-new-england-patriots-appeal-suspension-supreme-court Article says Brady dropped out of the appeal process despite urges from Pats owner Robert Kraft and the NFLPA, almost as if Brady knew he was guilty, but Kraft and the NFLPA didn’t

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Flexing a cheater’s trophy, if that’s what you think is cool, go ahead and be a loser, we’re all just laughing at you😭 It’s like posting “get wrecked bozo” with the 2023 Michigan trophy, like the only people that respect that trophy are sportswriters and Michigan fans

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Yk probably one of the most respected head coaches of all time who went 12-0 with the hurricans and won 2 superbowls with the cowboys…. Holy cope job by a salty ass broncos fanboy. Hopped on tbe broncos bandwagon bc of peyton manning how sad😂😂😂

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

So that was super bowl 51 and im assuming that youre gonna say they cheated that year right?

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Cheat once, and I can’t trust any of his achievements, who knows he wasn’t bending the rules then and didn’t get caught? That’s the issue with cheating, it makes the rest of your accomplishments questionable

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Youre actually so dumb. Bandwagoned onto the broncos and wannahave a superiority complex bc of some Iffy ass data that neither really proves or denys anything

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

I bet youve cheated on your significant other but asked for a 2nd chance

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Not even a bandwagon, I grew up in Colorado and started cheering for them after Peyton retired, my first year of being a bronco fan was Trevor Siemian or however you spell his name You keep making statements that are false and then insulting me, if all you have are lies and insults, what are we doing here? 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

No, have you?? 😭😭😭 I’ve never cheated on a significant other, it’s really not that hard not to

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

No i havent but by the way you talk it seems youre very hypocritical. Bc you do knowthat you cheered for the pats when they apparently “cheated” accordng to you. Ya dummy. Also since im sixk of arguing with you bc you clearly dont know shit, 8 superbowls. 1 in a year where he “cheated”. Thats still 7… go cry mea river.

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Ah yes grew up in colorado, have family in boston, so was a boston fan. You are something else

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

I didn’t know bruh I was a lil kid, 10 year old me didn’t know about Spygate I was too busy eating ice cream and building legos 😭 And again, cheat once, how do we know he didn’t cheat other times but got away with it? Cheating makes all your accomplishments questionable, we’re just talking in circles since you either think a. He didn’t cheat (factually wrong) or b. Cheating shouldn’t disqualify him from the HoF (which would be a difference in opinion) We can have a diff opinion, that’s okay

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

Yes my dad got me into football, he’s from Boston, I cheered for my dad’s fav team growing up bc he got me into football, isn’t that crazy? A kid cheering for his dad’s fav team? How awful of me 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

One mistake doesn't define an entire career. Belichick won 8 super bowls. Brady won 7. If you're being serious you should think twice because the average person thinks you're a complete dunce

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

How do we know that they weren’t cheating? They both cheated, Belichick twice. What’s to say they weren’t at other times but just weren’t caught? Guess I’m a dunce but imo putting Belichick or Brady in the HoF would be a disservice to the sport of football and to the HoF

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

God damn this guy is doing flips on it for Goodell! My goodness this is dozens of comments in the last hour

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Which team do you support? Jets? Bills? Dolphins? ... Colts? Rams? I'm curious 🤨

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Anonymous replying to -> #4 2w

Facts ts is crazy 😭

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Bill Belichick is not the league’s golden boy. The reporters hated him, other coaches & gms (Bill Polian comes to mind) hated him, tons of fans clearly hates him. You may actually have a cognitive disability bro.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Just saw the other thread... Broncos. Checks out after that shitshow last week.

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Anonymous replying to -> #2 2w

Again I don’t care about the Pats, happy for Vrabel and Maye, bc they’re not proven cheaters? Like idk why you Pats fans can’t wrap your head around why someone may dislike Belichick and Brady and not just be a Pats hater? Drew Bledsoe is in like my top 5 fav QB highlight reels ever Not a salty Pats hater, a salty Belichick and Brady hater, but I think my salt is reasonable considering the whole SpyGate and DeflateGate controversies

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 2w

Belichicks scandals provided less of a competitive advantage than teams that actively tank for a better draft pick and player. Wanna know who started the tanking trend in the modern nfl? Bill polian, the same dude trying to crucify belichick. He also pumped in artifical crowd noise, and gave linemen hearing aids (which are illegal). Crucify belichick bc he was with the pats and won, but youll have to crucify every single person who “cheated” as well

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 2w

a. Tanking isn’t against the rules. It’s actually encouraged by the rules. If the worst teams get the best picks, tanking is a viable rebuilding strategy. b. Bill Polian literally voted to induct Belichick so idk why you’re bringing him up c. Yeah, I’d say Bill Polian shouldn’t be in the HoF either because of the crowd noise thing. d. The hearing aids thing is just an unfounded accusation from what I could find online, no formal accusations or anything, just petty Twitter comments

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

Tanking actually is against the rules if u interpret them a certain way. How do you know bill polian didnt lie about who he voted for, as the controversy came out before he said anything. Correct polian shouldnt be in. The hearing aid thing has as much evidence as spygate or deflategate has…

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Anonymous replying to -> OP 1w

Point me to said evidence then please, all I’ve seen is a single player saying it, that’s it, not tryna say you’re wrong I just couldn’t find anything ab it on the internet

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Anonymous replying to -> #1 1w

You might be the #1 Brady/Belichick hater I aspire to reach your level of passion one day

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