Anonymous #1 6d

The Rams would have done just as well with any other quarterback in that situation. Maybe he wins them one or two more games than a replacement, but the rest of that team has so much talent around him that clearly so many other players on that team are just as valuable. Nacua was literally up for OPOY, and Tae is still good even if he’s old, plus Higbee has shown his value at TE

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Anonymous OP 6d

Stafford was an elite thrower this year, only other elite thrower imo was burrow when healthy, Maye is a great thrower and great runner but I’d rather have an elite thrower

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Anonymous #1 6d

The patriots are not anywhere near 14 wins without Maye, plain and simple. Maye is more valuable to his team than Stafford is to his. Perhaps even the most valuable player of any player to his team… hey maybe they could make that into an award

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Anonymous OP 6d

Stafford literally led the league in wins above replacement by over half a win over second place

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Anonymous OP 6d

Stafford was good as Rodgers and Brady this year at pushing the ball downfield, he was absurdly efficient throwing the ball past the sticks 46 passing TDs are the most in a season since 2020 Threw only 8 INTs with a 2.9% turnover rate He played well against good defenses too, some of his best ball came against the best teams he played

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Anonymous #2 6d

I’m confused what you’re arguing here? Lamar SHOULD have won last year, and them missing the playoffs without him shows his value

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yeah Lamar should’ve won it last year

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Anonymous #1 6d

46 passing touchdowns, 15 were from one yard out and over 20 were within 10. Those are rushing situations that they’ve forced into passes, which is clear when you see he had 105 more pass attempts than Maye (only nix and dak had more than stafford) Maye had the highest yards per attempt (efficiency), best completion %, led passer rating and qbr, and was an effective rusher with a team full of castaways and the power of friendship

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yeah, I’m not saying Maye didn’t have a good season, but imo Stafford was the right choice, he had a QB season that happens about once every 5 years, absolutely elite throwing the ball downfield, highest passing grade on throws past 10 yards since Aaron Rodgers in 2020 Most big time throws in a season since Patrick Mahomes in 2018 15 TDs vs. 2 INTs against the league’s top 10 defenses by efficiency

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Anonymous #1 6d

Your argument still relies so heavily on pure statistics when I’ve been arguing that pure statistics aren’t the best gauge, especially when the phrasing of the award suggests a comparative nature heavily reliant on the context of the situation (à la carrying an awful team to mediocre results like Stafford did when he was on the lions vs a good player helping push an already good team like Stafford did this year)

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Anonymous #1 6d

Im definitely not upset over the choice though, especially with how close the voting was, I think that just comes down to rationalizing how each of the voters decide honestly

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Anonymous OP 6d

Lamar deserved MVP Drake Maye didn’t deserve MVP

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Anonymous OP 6d

Yeah and I personally think Stafford was more valuable to the Rams than Maye was to the Pats tbh

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