Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

Hurts over Herbert is the much closer argument, not Love over Hurts

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Rings are a good way of determining who’s a better qb but they’re not the end all be all. Herbie had nearly 1.9k more passing yards and 22 more passing TDs

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Anonymous #4 1w

I wouldn’t say rings are a good way of determining how good a player is in a team heavy sport. Tons of greats don’t have rings and there’s also tons of mid players that have rings.

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Ring culture in 2026 is just sad man

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Anonymous #3 1w

Hurts doesn’t do a single thing better than Herbert as a QB. In fact Hurts would be dead last if Tua didn’t have his brains fried.

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Anonymous #4 1w

It’s not rings, Hurts obviously has the better supporting cast while the Chargers have failed to set Herbert up for success. It’s the fact that Herbert plays significantly worse in the postseason, despite having the same players around him that he does in the regular season. That is a damning trait that will keep him from success. Hurts, on the other hand, rises to the occasion, which is part of why the Eagles have enjoyed the success they have.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

I think rings do carry some weight but it depends on how each team is built. Both of Hurts’ rings aren’t as impressive due to surrounding cast but Eli’s hold more weight due to lack of surrounding cast + playoff run. Fully agree on your last point of greats not having any and mid players having rings tho

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Anonymous #4 1w

Keep in mind that Herbert is usually playing from behind, while the Eagles play from ahead and use their run game more. Herbert has also had one of the best receiving backs in the league for most of his career, and picked up a ton of easy yards that way.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

If Herbert was drafted to the Eagles, he still wouldn’t have a single playoff win.

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Anonymous #3 1w

That’s just blasphemy lmao. I’d argue that they’d be more dominant

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Anonymous #3 1w

So this is how ik you don’t watch the Chargers or keep up with them. The Chargers this year alone had like 23 or more different OL changes due to injuries and poor play. Not a single player on the OL was ranked within the top 32 at their position. On top of that he had an absolute moron calling plays and improperly using players to their best fit and to adjust to the bad OL.

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Anonymous #4 1w

It’s a hypothetical, so you can never truly know, but choking in the playoffs tends to translate across teams. They’d be more dominant in the regular season fs

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Anonymous #3 1w

If you’re gonna mention Ekeler you should also mention that was when Staley was the HC who a bottom 3 HC in the league. Defensive minded HC who’d constantly blow games with his defense. There was multiple times where Herbert had the offense humming but Staley is an absolute moron.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

I’ve already said that the Chargers fail to set Herbert up for success. It’s fascinating that he can take those teams to the playoffs, but turns into Geno Smith every year in the wild card. He clearly has a mental block that Hurts doesn’t have

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

Staley is a big part of why Herbert has played from behind so much, yes. Thanks for supporting my point

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Anonymous #3 1w

Yeah and the fact that he’s set up for failure and still puts up considerable better numbers than Hurts should tell you Herbie is monumentally better lol

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Anonymous #3 1w

Herbert has had 1 playoff game where you could call it a blunder on his part and even still then 2 of the INTs were tipped passes and another was a shit play call. But to blame him for the last loss where he was running back 15 yards just to get time against not even a strong pass rush is asinine. To blame him for Staley choking is asinine. Herbert would murder the NFC if they switched positions.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

Ok I get that. I definitely think it’s close but gave the edge to hurts. I’m a person who’s very harsh on Love I think he gets very overhyped by people and to be fair I think Hurts is overrated too but at his best he’s a very effective dual threat QB. He’s just not always at his best

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Anonymous #3 1w

The fact that you understand that he hasn’t had a good situation but aren’t understanding that a bad situation is going to get exposed in the playoffs is wild. It happens every year when a team is either poorly constructed, dealing with injuries, and or poorly coached gets absolutely dismantled in the playoffs by the better team. You literally see it with the Eagles every year they don’t have another HC at OC.

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Anonymous rankman 1w

I get that, I believe both are system QBs but Love IMO is a more complete QB and doesn’t hold an offense back in ways that Hurts does.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

He’d murder the NFC in the regular season. He still saw success with that o-line, it only stopped him in the playoffs. The Jags game is the only game he didn’t completely suck in, but even that one he couldn’t do shit in the second half. The “supporting cast” argument gets weaker every year. Herbert is better in pointless games and hypothetical scenarios. If I want my team to win a playoff game in real life, I’m taking Hurts

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

I will say I’m eager to see how Herbert does under McDaniel. If he fails again, I wonder if y’all will still put it on the OC

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Anonymous #3 1w

Bruh his supporting cast is aging Keenan Allen and QJ who finally decided to put up numbers. Meanwhile Hurts has a physical freak in AJ Brown, a slot freak who’s one of two guys to win the Heisman at his position, a stacked defense, and arguably one of the most athletically gifted RBs of all time are you kidding me about surrounding cast not being valid???

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Anonymous #3 1w

He’s done good with good OCs the current issue is the IOL and it’s been an issue

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Anonymous #4 1w

If you play fine in the regular season, and then choke massively in the wild card every year, it’s not really about the supporting cast, is it?

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Anonymous #3 1w

If you put Hurts and Herbert in the same situation Herbert is doing far more. Hurts has shown time and time again if the situation doesn’t have a good surrounding cast and a good play caller then he struggles considerably. Herbert has shown multiple times that he will carry weak supporting casts/play callers further than they should go but even still then eventually that’s going to stop. The playoffs are where teams really get fraud checked or where teams that shouldn’t be there bc overall

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Anonymous #3 1w

They’re not good then they also get eliminated. You see it with the Steelers every year bc of poor coaching.

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Anonymous #3 1w

The intensity goes up considerably in the playoffs and teams with massive weaknesses get exploited on that

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

Look if you want to look at talent and ability, Herbert is clearly the better QB. I don’t think it’s ridiculous to put Herbert over Hurts. I just value success over natural talent, and if we’re being realistic about Herbert, he hasn’t shown the ability to be successful when it counts. That’s why I gotta take Hurts

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

Teams still want to win in the regular season, and they do so by exploiting weaknesses. Herbert can’t handle the intensity, and until he overcomes that, he can’t be in top QB conversations

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Anonymous #3 1w

Okay but rings aren’t the only determining factor of success. I’d argue stats are a better indicator and as I’ve previously said Herbie is monumentally superior to Hurts in that regard. The reason Herbie hasn’t had postseason success is his surrounding cast and if you’re not willing to acknowledge that you’re massively mistaken. Hurts gets away with wins in shitty games. Herbie isn’t afforded that. Eagles wins can be attributed to many factors. Chargers wins are usually attributed to Herbie

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Anonymous #4 1w

Like the fact that the Chargers even made the playoffs with that oline is a testament to how good Herbie is Also the fact that I’m even arguing for Herbie when i have no ties to either team shows just how deluded you are

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Anonymous #4 1w

I haven’t once said that Hurts is better because of his ring. The Chargers deserve blame, but Herbert’s lack of playoff success is on him. He can’t perform at all. Not acknowledging that and clawing for excuses is what’s unrealistic.

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Anonymous #4 1w

It would be another thing if Herbert played well in those playoff losses, and just got outmatched by better teams with better coaches/players. That isn’t what we’ve seen.

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Anonymous #4 1w

It’s a testament to how *talented* Herbie is. He performed much worse in the playoffs with the same o-line. I hold no ties too, I’m a Panthers fan. If anything, I have a reason to go against Hurts bc dumbass Eagles fans compare him to Cam. I just want people to be realistic about Herbo

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Anonymous #3 1w

Well damn son I’m a panthers fan too just hate on hurts like I do lmao

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Anonymous #4 1w

Hey bro, Bryce is better than both (joking (not really))

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Anonymous #3 1w

1. Herbie 2. BY9 3. A pile of crap 4. Hurts

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Anonymous #4 1w

Idk bruh I’d trust Bryce to win a playoff game more

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Anonymous #7 1w

No

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

burrow was so good so early but if we’re going over the last 2-3 years I’d take Herbert tbh, esp if we’re making more recent seasons more important

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Anonymous #7 1w

Burrow has better touch and is arguably better under pressure but other than that I’m taking Herbert especially if you value availability.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 1w

yeah if burrow didn’t have the clear health issues i would probably take burrow but availability is the best ability tbh

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