
I’m a big CFB fan and love rivalries because they give the game so much life. It’s just way lamer to me if people act like huge crybabies whenever anyone says something remotely bad about their team. I vibe more with the Eagles fan mentality of being like “yeah you’re right, Nick Sirianni is shit. [X player or coach] on your team is shit too” or the Steelers’ “yep he’s having a bad game but we might not need him anyway.” versus the Bears fan mentality of “no he’s not playing bad!!!!11!1! 😢”
I think there are absolutely homophobic ppl who hate Caleb Williams but (1) saying “Caleb Williams hate is rooted in misogyny” disrespects his identity as a man given that misogyny is defined as hatred for women, (2) tries to sweep any actual football reasons (even him being good) under the rug, and (3) is just overly reductive for no reason other than to garner sympathy
(1) you’re fucking stupid and ignorant if you genuinely believe misogyny is only harmful to women lmfao (2) I don’t believe in hating on any player for having one bad game because I know that they’re still people who have their own lives and their own issues that they’re dealing with (3) I think calling him “gay” for painting his nails is far more reductive than me calling it out
QBs for good teams (or teams that are perceived as “supposed to be good”) will absolutely receive more hate from outside their fanbase than QBs of bad teams. Way fewer people are hating on Geno Smith than Patrick Mahomes. Not trying to deny the homophobia rooted in some of the Caleb Williams hate but it’s disingenuous to pretend it’s only coming from that
I wasn’t saying he’s “gay” for painting his nails, I was saying it’s homophobic to shit on him by calling him gay for painting his nails. Shitting on a player for having one bad game isn’t technically accurate but it makes for good trash talk and I think that’s entertaining. Most of the harm done to men by misogyny is done to misogynist men by themselves imo, I highly doubt Caleb Williams struggles with his own sense of masculinity despite what twitter wants you to believe.
This post wasn’t talking specifically about this game. Can y’all get that through ur thick skulls? And I also think Caleb has pretty strong self esteem, but his ability to tough it out doesn’t say anything about the appropriateness or harm caused by those sorts of remarks. Stop while ur ahead.
^^ like this person is agreeing with most your points and you’re yelling at them. Majority of the hate Caleb gets has absolutely nothing to do with him painting his nails. He’s a fucking QB in the NFL 31 fan bases are gonna hate on him just like the other 31 QBs get. I get the bears have never had a good QB ever but this is pretty normal hate for one. QBs get criticized for every single thing they do. Their gf the way the speak their looks everything about them. Even majority of ppl who bring
The nails up don’t actually care he does it. ITS JUST SLANDER. It’s the nfl this is how it works. Look at Allen Herbert hurts Mahomes. Mahomes legits get made fun of for talking like Kermit. Nike making a commercial about it for when he lost the SB. You guys are genuinely so soft and reaching so hard.
Tbh I’m realizing this entire argument is fucking stupid. Yes I agree a vocal minority of Caleb Williams haters are homophobic and that’s bad. OP said “Caleb Williams hate is rooted in misogyny.” It’s not morally wrong to dislike him for different reasons, and Bears fans being so upset at the concept of literally anyone disliking him for any reason makes me realize that they’re not used to being a good team yet. You’ll prob be flattered by it in a year or two.
It’s genuinely not. Majority of people aren’t hating on him for that. You guys just can’t handle your QB getting criticized so you immediately result to “it’s homophobia” like he legit threw 3 picks and the first thought was “that’s misogynistic” like accept that a QB can be slanders without anyone caring about that shit. 99% of people don’t and you are lying if you think that’s the reason he gets hated on. Ofc some ppl do it but most aren’t. He’s a QB, he’s gonna get criticized
You are missing the entire point. Most people don’t care about that, even if they make a joke about it. The point is it doesn’t matter if you paint your nails, talk funny, or are an alien from mars. HES AN NFL QB. HES GOIMG TO GET MADE FUN OF. It doesn’t matter what they are gonna find someone and there’s no giant evil conspiracy theory behind it.
No, YOU’RE missing the point. Being made fun of for your voice is lighthearted and silly. Being made fun of because you don’t conform to patriarchal norms is homophobic because the hate he’s receiving is NOT because he’s an NFL qb, it’s because he isn’t afraid to be himself and insecure haters can’t handle it. The people who have genuine criticisms aren’t the problem because they aren’t making homophobic and misogynistic comments.
Other QBs don’t give them the opportunity to attack them like that. If Lamar painted his nails I guarantee just as many people would be saying shit like that. Ultimately I have a lot of respect for Caleb as a man for not giving af abt it and doing what he wants anyway, I’m just rooting against his team bc they piss me off