Anonymous #1 2w

How the fuck is it their fault? They were hired after Stafford left 😭😭😭

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Anonymous OP 2w

They traded Stafford instead of building around him

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Anonymous OP 2w

They failed to build a competent roster

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Anonymous #1 2w

You still haven’t explained how that is Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell’s fault. Also, Stafford wanted to be traded they didn’t willingly trade him.

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What’s worse: being sorry and never being close to a championship, or blowing your only chance at ever making it to a Super Bowl while your all-time greatest QB wins 2 rings, an MVP, and retires as a Ram?

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Anonymous #1 2w

You’re still avoiding my question. How is it Dan Campbell in Brad Holmes’s fault that the Lions failed Stafford

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Anonymous OP 2w

Considering he’s played elite for 3 of his 5 years with LA and they willingly gave him up, it’s their fault for not maximizing the good QB play he could have had left for Detroit

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Anonymous OP 2w

Instead of trying to build a contending roster without a game changing QB

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Anonymous #1 2w

You are just talking to yourself at this point. Dan Campbell was hired after Stafford was gone. He did not have any part in the Jared Goff Stafford trade. Second of all Stafford demanded to be traded. You’re acting like the Lions willingly let him go. If there’s anybody to blame for the Lions failing Matthew Stafford blame the Ford family.

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Anonymous OP 2w

If Stafford and the Rams make it to 2 super bowls (and winning at least 1) while the lions will likely fail to make the playoffs in 4 of their 6 years since the trade (without even making it to a Super Bowl), idk how Campbell and Holmes can keep their jobs. If it isn’t Campbell’s fault for the Stafford trade, it damn sure is his fault they haven’t been to a Super Bowl

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Anonymous OP 2w

The lions also partially rebuilt their team off of the trade

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Anonymous #2 2w

That’s what I’m saying. Part of the reason the lions have been good. The past few years is because of that trade. If Stafford would’ve stayed, they most likely would not have been good.

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Anonymous #2 2w

Doesn’t mean much when they blew a 24-7 lead in the NFC Championship and got blown out by a rookie QB and a bunch of uncs the next year

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Anonymous OP 2w

They still aren’t a good team now.

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Anonymous OP 2w

People also act like jared Goff just isn’t good lol I don’t get it

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Anonymous #2 2w

He’s the reason they lost to Washington, and the reason they’ll never make it to a Super Bowl

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Anonymous #1 2w

He has the second most passing yards in the league lol

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Anonymous #2 2w

Empty stats against bad teams, only playoff team he played well against was the Bears

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Anonymous #2 2w

Yeah, he’s not that bad is just #1 is just yapping. dude, literally blamed Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes for Stafford leaving when they were literally were hired like literally right when Stafford was traded.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Oh I see you were talking about the game last season, my bad. That definitely was his fault. But I feel like the primary reason the lions were eliminated this season was because of bad calls/coaching

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Anonymous OP 2w

Most turnovers in the league since he was drafted btw

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Anonymous #1 2w

Bro, are you actually mentally disabled? Dan Campbell had absolutely nothing to do with the Matthew Stafford trade.

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Anonymous #1 2w

And Matthew Stamford is tied with the most pick 6 in nfl history with Brett Favre. Does that mean he’s bad? No.

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Anonymous #2 2w

Stafford*

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Anonymous #2 2w

Just don’t listen to him he’s just going to blatantly ignore all of your points and just yap.

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Anonymous #2 2w

Stafford has 7 playoff wins and a ring. Goff has 4 playoff wins and scored 3 points in a Super Bowl

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Anonymous OP 2w

I think it’s funny going back and forth with people like this

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Anonymous OP 2w

It’s objectively true. Lions will miss the playoffs once again next year and fire Holmes and Campbell, meanwhile Stafford will retire an MVP with the Ram

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Anonymous #1 2w

They would be stills to fire Campbell

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Anonymous #2 2w

Stupid * damn autocorrect

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Anonymous #1 2w

Yes, but what does that have to do with what you originally said? You are just making up arguments in your head that are completely besides the point of your original claim. Nobody is arguing about Stafford or Jared Goff besides you.

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Anonymous OP 2w

The fact is the 23-24 Lions with Stafford at bare minimum make it to a Super Bowl

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Anonymous OP 2w

But since they traded him, they’ll be looked at as idiots forever

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Anonymous #2 2w

Yeah, Dan Campbell has been probably the major reason besides those draft picks that the Lions have been good. But apparently somehow they deserve to be fired according to 1 due to a trade he had no involvement in

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Anonymous #1 2w

Part of the reason that team even made it to the NFC championship was because of players they drafted with those picks from the Matthew Stafford trade. If they retained Matthew Stafford, they probably would not have been in the playoffs that year.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Only by people like you dawg. That trade is the reason they’ve even been able to be championship contenders these past few years. They got a good qb in jared Goff and 3 draft picks in which they picked players that significantly impacted their team

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Anonymous OP 2w

Campbell is literally just a glorified cheerleader. Nick Sirianni without the 2 Super Bowl appearances

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Anonymous #1 2w

They will be looked at as idiots for trading a player that demanded to be traded?

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Anonymous #2 2w

And also, stafford was sick of continuous disappointment. His first year out, he wins a Super Bowl. He finally got the recognition he deserved and the lions got the roster they needed in order to rebuild

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Anonymous #2 2w

With those picks the lions drafted Josh Paschal (who basically never played), Brodric Martin (who got cut 2 years in), Ifeatu Melifonwu (who was okay, but perennially injured), Sam LaPorta (always injured), and Jameson Williams (talented but a head case)

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Anonymous #1 2w

“Talented but a head case”😂😂😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄

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Anonymous #2 2w

And Gibbs, who is good, but it’s been shown time and again that Super Bowl winning teams don’t draft RBS in the 1st round

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Anonymous #2 2w

He’s been suspended multiple times and constantly gets fined for dumb behavior during games

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Anonymous #2 2w

Cost his team an XP In the game against the eagles

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Anonymous #1 2w

Bro, you need to calm down it’s not that deep 😭

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Anonymous OP 2w

I’m a lions fan. Why should I be calm

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Anonymous OP 2w

When Melvin Holmes blew the lions only chance at a Super Bowl probably until I die

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Anonymous #1 2w

Lions are cursed the same as the bills lol

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Anonymous #2 2w

Bills at least made it to a couple super bowls. I’ll never see it. Meanwhile Patriots are going to Super Bowl #12

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Anonymous #1 2w

They lost 4 in a row

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Anonymous #1 2w

They aren’t winning this year. They’ve had an easy ass path.

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Anonymous #2 2w

Is never going to a Super Bowl better than losing 4 straight? I don’t think so

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Anonymous #1 2w

I don’t know about that. I’d rather never go to the Super Bowl than watch my team lose at four in a row. At the end of the day, both teams are still ringless and one did not have to go through the agonizing pain of watching them lose four times in a row.

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Anonymous #1 2w

Also, the lions have had arguably the best rb and wr in nfl history, as well as one of the best QBs in nfl history, and couldn’t even sniff a Super Bowl. That is a ownership problem

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Anonymous OP 2w

One also has only 3 playoff wins between 1958-now

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Anonymous #2 2w

If only Sheila Hamp had taken over earlier, the Lions could’ve probably turned it around while they had Stafford. Hiring Matt Patricia was the nail in the coffin.

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Anonymous OP 2w

I just don’t understand why they didn’t build around stafford and Calvin Johnson. They could’ve won a superbowl with those two and a decent defense

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Anonymous #2 2w

I mean, they definitely tried to. The problem is they were never really able to consistently draft good players and Stafford never really had a good offensive line during his time with the team.

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