Anonymous #1 2w

He was a sec quarterback who won a bunch of games this year and was a heisman finalist, he’s definitely a good quarterback at least in college who knows about nfl. But he’s not the only one I’m talking about.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 2w

Well first off the order was weird, allar going in the 3rd followed by klubnik and then the Rutgers guy going and Morton going before Nussmeier who went in the 7th. Pavia, altmyer, and even king not getting drafted I felt was wrong. Hell I’d take pavia and altmyer easily before Morton or the Rutgers guy or he’ll even Cole Payton (athletic guy but not a good passer especially compared to fbs QBs)

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 2w

I feel like if allar is a 3rd round talent nussmeier is a 4th and pavia would easily be drafted same with altmyer

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Anonymous OP 2w

Understandable. Coaches/FO are very cocky and believe they will be able to develop project guys with great upside. Teams draft based off of upside, locker room fit, and scheme fit. So a guy may have the first 2 but if he’s let’s say a statue in the pocket and they’re looking for a dual threat guy then they won’t take him. Allar has the most potential in this draft bc of his frame and arm, that doesn’t mean he’ll hit it but that’s why he went in the 3rd.

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Anonymous OP 2w

Klubnik is in a similar boat and has shown development in college which is important. Yeah he wasn’t that good this year but neither was Clemson as a whole. Rutgers & Morton were scheme fit guys as depth. Nuss fell likely due to his back where he might need surgery + him not really showing much development in college + him not having any impressive traits. Altmyer & King probably in the same boat of not being super impressive prospects.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 2w

I’m well aware of the reasons for drafting guys. The point is they’re taking guys with lower ceilings than others and it’s just weird. Even scheme fits they’re taking guys that might fit their scheme but there’s better options for that scheme. The kid from Arkansas I would’ve expected to go earlier for the reason of him being just a freak of nature and if people could get him shaped up he’d be crazy because of his talent. Either way teams took weird players at weird spots and left good names

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Anonymous OP 2w

Pavia went UDFA bc he has character issues, has a very short frame, and doesn’t possess any NFL traits. Guys like K1, Russ, and BY9 had special talents that offset them being short. They also didn’t have character issues.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 2w

His character issues would’ve been addressed in meetings and tbh I don’t think they care too much about it, his frame is valid but he still made high level plays and was pretty athletic. Watch his tape and see how quick he was. He’s shown very clear progression and again you don’t just become a heisman runner up by accident.

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Anonymous OP 2w

I think the nfl fan community has more of an issue with Pavias character than teams did

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Anonymous OP 2w

Names and upside aren’t everything. Age also plays a factor. If teams feel like they can get you to your ceiling then they’ll draft you high. Green will be 24 by the end of his rookie season. AR a slightly similar prospect with more upside was 20 when drafted. Allar just recently turned 22. Some teams also value security over potential etc.

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Anonymous OP 2w

College is a lot different than the NFL. Some guys are just college good and that’s what Pavia is.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 2w

Okay but Payton is 23 and Morton is 24 so that argument doesn’t even work

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 2w

No shit

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 2w

But so could every other guy but you’re not giving the heisman runner up the chance but you are different 24 year old who wasn’t even that good in college. That’s my point on why it’s weird is that age isn’t the only factor, talent potential isn’t either it’s just been weird that’s my point

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Anonymous OP 2w

I really don’t think it’s weird at all especially when a lot of the guys you listed had late round grades on them for months. If you understand what all goes into consideration when drafting players I don’t think it’s weird in the slightest bit that teams looked at prospects who don’t offer a lot and chose to go in a different direction and or to wait till the draft was over to offer them.

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Anonymous mr.orangutan 2w

They’re picking players with less upside and ones that played worse in colleges than the guys they left, sure they had low grades but I feel like the ones they did pick should’ve had udfa grades that’s why it’s weird. You might not agree but that’s just my evaluation from everything

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